War---The Theme of our Era....Just a Reflection
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War---The Theme of our Era....Just a Reflection
In Somalia and many other parts of the world, there are wars, wars, and in many parts of the "3rd World", they are still like they used to be during the so called "COLD WAR", what has changed? Evil finds its power in the threat and use of destruction and death. Responding to evil with more death and destruction only further feeds evil’s power. That is why nonviolence, on the other hand, exposes evil’s weakness.
Somalis, Americans and other leading countries of the world on the global scale need more leaders that have the guts to try something different other than the mindless cycle of building up for war, war, "victory", and then building up for the next war.
Disputes can always be settled peacefully. It may be naive to believe that peace will come easily, but this does not mean that the objective of achieving peace is a naive one. Yes, it is naive to believe that peace will come without effort. The people I admire most as leaders are the ones who make the effort to find peace. The only "war" I ever want to fight is the one to keep peace in my heart. I will not participate in any other.
Somalis, Americans and other leading countries of the world on the global scale need more leaders that have the guts to try something different other than the mindless cycle of building up for war, war, "victory", and then building up for the next war.
Disputes can always be settled peacefully. It may be naive to believe that peace will come easily, but this does not mean that the objective of achieving peace is a naive one. Yes, it is naive to believe that peace will come without effort. The people I admire most as leaders are the ones who make the effort to find peace. The only "war" I ever want to fight is the one to keep peace in my heart. I will not participate in any other.
[quote="Kamal35"]Brilliant, Mow. Have you ever thought about becoming a politician. You're really good at it: good intentions and good style. Moving.[/quote]
Kamal
Thanks Kamal, but politics is not for me. I enjoy life and people so I don't wanna screw them up.
I loovee peace and would make sure that I protect it within all my power.
We despereately need peace in Somalia and in many parts of the rest of the world, and mate once achieved, it pays huge dividends. Children having be fed, housed and getting education is a God given (natural) Right.
Kamal
Thanks Kamal, but politics is not for me. I enjoy life and people so I don't wanna screw them up.

We despereately need peace in Somalia and in many parts of the rest of the world, and mate once achieved, it pays huge dividends. Children having be fed, housed and getting education is a God given (natural) Right.
Re: War---The Theme of our Era....Just a Reflection
[quote="Mowhawk"]In Somalia and many other parts of the world, there are wars, wars, and in many parts of the "3rd World", they are still like they used to be during the so called "COLD WAR", what has changed? Evil finds its power in the threat and use of destruction and death. Responding to evil with more death and destruction only further feeds evil’s power. That is why nonviolence, on the other hand, exposes evil’s weakness.
Somalis, Americans and other leading countries of the world on the global scale need more leaders that have the guts to try something different other than the mindless cycle of building up for war, war, "victory", and then building up for the next war.
Disputes can always be settled peacefully. It may be naive to believe that peace will come easily, but this does not mean that the objective of achieving peace is a naive one. Yes, it is naive to believe that peace will come without effort. The people I admire most as leaders are the ones who make the effort to find peace. The only "war" I ever want to fight is the one to keep peace in my heart. I will not participate in any other.[/quote]
Mow
The Somalis did came to a dead end, which is a sad situation/solution,and at the sametime, they will manage to convince you, and swear that they know that there is a religious war going on the global scale. Nor will they recongnize that this whole global issue is related non other to the artificial European creation of nation-states (European states created nations-states that wasn't intended for the communities of non-Europeans). Keep up the spirits high, little brother.
Somalis, Americans and other leading countries of the world on the global scale need more leaders that have the guts to try something different other than the mindless cycle of building up for war, war, "victory", and then building up for the next war.
Disputes can always be settled peacefully. It may be naive to believe that peace will come easily, but this does not mean that the objective of achieving peace is a naive one. Yes, it is naive to believe that peace will come without effort. The people I admire most as leaders are the ones who make the effort to find peace. The only "war" I ever want to fight is the one to keep peace in my heart. I will not participate in any other.[/quote]
Mow
The Somalis did came to a dead end, which is a sad situation/solution,and at the sametime, they will manage to convince you, and swear that they know that there is a religious war going on the global scale. Nor will they recongnize that this whole global issue is related non other to the artificial European creation of nation-states (European states created nations-states that wasn't intended for the communities of non-Europeans). Keep up the spirits high, little brother.
Evil, if rightly understood
Is but the Skeleton of Good
Divested if its Flesh and Blood
while it remain without divorce
within its hidden, secret Source
s the Good's own Strength and Force.
As bone has the supporting Share
In human form Divinely fair
Altho' and Evil when laid bare
As light and Air are fed by Fire
A shinning Good, while all conspire
But,- seperate,- dark, raging Ire;
as Hope and Love arise from Faith
which then admits no ill nor hath
but, if alone, it would be wrath
or any Instance though upon
In which the evil can be none
Till unity of Good is gone
so, by abuse of though and Skill
the greatest Good to wit, free will
Becomes the origin of Ill
Is but the Skeleton of Good
Divested if its Flesh and Blood
while it remain without divorce
within its hidden, secret Source
s the Good's own Strength and Force.
As bone has the supporting Share
In human form Divinely fair
Altho' and Evil when laid bare
As light and Air are fed by Fire
A shinning Good, while all conspire
But,- seperate,- dark, raging Ire;
as Hope and Love arise from Faith
which then admits no ill nor hath
but, if alone, it would be wrath
or any Instance though upon
In which the evil can be none
Till unity of Good is gone
so, by abuse of though and Skill
the greatest Good to wit, free will
Becomes the origin of Ill
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Re: War---The Theme of our Era....Just a Reflection
[quote="Mowhawk"]
"Responding to evil with more death and destruction only further feeds evil’s power. That is why nonviolence, on the other hand, exposes evil’s weakness."
you're a pacifist now? Eye for an eye will make the whole world blind, if you like?
I like that message cause some ppl here could use it. Like when they think some atheist is bad mouthing Islam instead of swearing at him and calling him names they can explain to him his errors and peacefully try to modify his behaviour...NAH, not possible.
"Responding to evil with more death and destruction only further feeds evil’s power. That is why nonviolence, on the other hand, exposes evil’s weakness."



you're a pacifist now? Eye for an eye will make the whole world blind, if you like?
I like that message cause some ppl here could use it. Like when they think some atheist is bad mouthing Islam instead of swearing at him and calling him names they can explain to him his errors and peacefully try to modify his behaviour...NAH, not possible.
[quote="Achilles"]You are all three naive, and perhaps worse, fools. War is part of human nature-it is inescapable. If you consider the human race as one population of one world, then it is all civil war. We've been taught to follow the leader and do what it best for our homeland. War is so ingrained into the human consciousness that you can have millions following in step with Nazi Germany and Stalin's Soviet Union. To achieve world peace is to climb the Andes with a conoe-is it impossible ? Perhaps not, but it is quite improbable.[/quote]
Achilles
Human nature yeah, and me naive, no sir. Look to the countries we escaped to, and do they have wars? North America, Europe and Aus/New Zealand. They export their wars, and following your point above, we recieve it with open hands, because they "ingrained your consciousness" to be a warrior. A Somali killing another and survivors escaping to the west to find some peace. That is why I prefer peace, so one day I will see Somali children smiling and living a peaceful life, and who ever provides that is my kind of leader.
Achilles
Human nature yeah, and me naive, no sir. Look to the countries we escaped to, and do they have wars? North America, Europe and Aus/New Zealand. They export their wars, and following your point above, we recieve it with open hands, because they "ingrained your consciousness" to be a warrior. A Somali killing another and survivors escaping to the west to find some peace. That is why I prefer peace, so one day I will see Somali children smiling and living a peaceful life, and who ever provides that is my kind of leader.
Mow: you're right here, mate. As far as I know, Somalia was a peaceful country until the USRR and USA used it for the Cold War with Ethiopia. Since then, violence seems to be the national sport in Somalia. One way or another, peace has to come back to the country. Probably making it a Federal Republic in which clans create states in a friendly way. I don't know. But peace will come back.
What is this???????
John Lennon is back again with "Imagine" ????????
War is an integrated part of humans since the very first born of Adam's sons have killed each other and peace is why God has sent so many prophets to humans for guidance, but as long as we have the Hitlers, the Bush's, the Saddam's, The Siad Barre's &Aidid's we will always have wars to benefit the Cheney's, the Al Saud's and Ultimately the Zionists!!!!!!!!!!
John Lennon is back again with "Imagine" ????????

War is an integrated part of humans since the very first born of Adam's sons have killed each other and peace is why God has sent so many prophets to humans for guidance, but as long as we have the Hitlers, the Bush's, the Saddam's, The Siad Barre's &Aidid's we will always have wars to benefit the Cheney's, the Al Saud's and Ultimately the Zionists!!!!!!!!!!
[quote="gurey25"]To kill and be killed is the purest expression of humanity.
When war is no more, that is a sighn that we have trancended.
that we are no longer human[/quote]
Gurey
Then how come all the killing fields are far away from West Europe, North Ameica and NZ/Australia? Maybe we like their sort of human transcendence as we live peacefully in their shores.
How is Abu-Ghuraib?
When war is no more, that is a sighn that we have trancended.
that we are no longer human[/quote]
Gurey
Then how come all the killing fields are far away from West Europe, North Ameica and NZ/Australia? Maybe we like their sort of human transcendence as we live peacefully in their shores.
How is Abu-Ghuraib?
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Salaam mowhawk
They have had thier fill of war.
Tell me were thier enough years of peace for europe between
1000 to 1945.
Europe had some of the most savage wars in the history of earth,
even before the industrial revolution.
By contrast the Muslim world and China had several centuries of peace and prosperity intruppted only by the mongol catastrophe.
its simply our turn to get a fill of war and destruction.
They have had thier fill of war.
Tell me were thier enough years of peace for europe between
1000 to 1945.
Europe had some of the most savage wars in the history of earth,
even before the industrial revolution.
By contrast the Muslim world and China had several centuries of peace and prosperity intruppted only by the mongol catastrophe.
its simply our turn to get a fill of war and destruction.
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