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My realistic solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

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I think the current Israeli attack against the Palestinians and this entire ongoing conflict is caused by the collective trauma the Jewish people have experienced through countless ages manifesting itself through hyper aggression. After hundreds of years of languishing in exile, the Jews have finally regained control of their most holy and ancient land, a piece of real estate granted to them by Yahweh himself, and they are keen on guarding it. There is no way the Jews will be forced from their land again, because today they rely not on the power of Yahweh to protect their borders but an effective and valorous military and a stockpile of nukes. The Palestinians must realize that the Jews are not going to leave the land, must accept Israel's legitimacy and right to exist, the reality that Israel will not return to the 1947 border, and that there is no right to return. The land the Palestinian currently occupy, the West Bank and Gaza, will become their state. The world, taking responsibility for Israel's aggressive actions, must pressure the Palestinians to accept this. Then, and only then, can we begin to convince Israel to come to the table of peace. I think it's reasonable to request that Israel compensate those who lost properties in the the Jewish take over, compensate those who have been unjustly killed in Israel's attacks, bring to justice those responsible for disproportionate retaliations, grant East Jerusalem as the capital of the Palestinian state, immediately withdraw from all settlements, and effectively safeguard and ensure the rights and equality of Israeli Arabs.

Both sides must make serious and painful comprises for there to be peace.
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union wrote:this entire ongoing conflict is caused by the collective trauma the Jewish people have experienced through countless ages
So, you're simply saying, the Jews are the victims and the Palestinians are the criminals/oppressors. Sounds Jewlogical to me. :up:
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A one state solution is the realistic solution.


Israel will not give up its control over the water resources found in the West Bank. Gaza is nothing less of an open air prison. It's overpopulated and lacks the resources needed to develop and sustain its inhabitants.
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Easy solution

Europeans need to go back to Europe.

Let the natives control their land.

Problem solved.
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^ :lol:, don't forget to record and upload it on Worldstarhiphop or Youtube, which ever you prefer.
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Coldoon wrote:
union wrote:this entire ongoing conflict is caused by the collective trauma the Jewish people have experienced through countless ages
So, you're simply saying, the Jews are the victims and the Palestinians are the criminals/oppressors. Sounds Jewlogical to me. :up:
The Jews are the victims of centuries of abuse at the hands of many diverse peoples .
ElfRuler wrote:A one state solution is the realistic solution.


Israel will not give up its control over the water resources found in the West Bank. Gaza is nothing less of an open air prison. It's overpopulated and lacks the resources needed to develop and sustain its inhabitants.
A one state solution threatens the Jewish character of the state, which is the essential characteristic of Israel. As for water, the Jews turned the desert in an oasis, they can probably find water just fine.
Advo wrote:Easy solution

Europeans need to go back to Europe.

Let the natives control their land.

Problem solved.
That's not an easy or realistic solution. Let's try to think logically here, Advo.
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union wrote:I think it's reasonable to request that Israel compensate those who lost properties in the the Jewish take over, compensate those who have been unjustly killed in Israel's attacks, bring to justice those responsible for disproportionate retaliations, grant East Jerusalem as the capital of the Palestinian state, immediately withdraw from all settlements, and effectively safeguard and ensure the rights and equality of Israeli Arabs.
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union wrote: A one state solution threatens the Jewish character of the state, which is the essential characteristic of Israel. As for water, the Jews turned the desert in an oasis, they can probably find water just fine.

There is nothing "Jewish" about Israel. It's a Zionist State (Ashkenazi), which can not bring justice and fairness to its citizens without discriminating against everyone who is not an Ashkenazi Jew.


It's one thing to give the illusion that a desert is an oasis, and another matter to find water in the desert.
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I don't think even a Jew would write this and keep a straight face while writing it.This cunt is the most Jew asrse licking cadaan wanna be I have ever come across
Either that or he's a troll and a half
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Do you ever formulate an opinion that's not based on Fox news rhetoric?
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Most ot what Union said is what is considered fair by moderates on both sides; both the Israeli left as well as the PLO/Palestinian Authorities. In fact the only people who disagree are Hamas (people who think it is possible Israel should not exist) and the Israeli right led by Likud/Netanyahu (people who see Israel beyond 1967 and undivided Jerusalem as capital of Israel).

Except for the right of return issue (even Arab moderates have not put down that card yet) most of what Union said is what responsible participants on both sides have said is a fair solution.

You guys are really ignorant about the state of negotiations and what the Palestinians themselves have said is acceptable and fair to them under the reality.
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i can never muster the energy to read any of this guys posts without cringing by the second line. all i ever hear from this guy is the same old dead liberal bs you read from the comment section of NYTimes. everything you said was unoriginal, factually incorrect or just plain bs.
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union wrote:I think it's reasonable to request that Israel compensate those who lost properties in the the Jewish take over, compensate those who have been unjustly killed in Israel's attacks, bring to justice those responsible for disproportionate retaliations, grant East Jerusalem as the capital of the Palestinian state, immediately withdraw from all settlements, and effectively safeguard and ensure the rights and equality of Israeli Arabs.
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:lol: :lol: my reaction also. poor kid is deluded, talk about the casualties of obamania smh.
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Most of what he said is the pragmatic compromise put forward by reasonable people on both sides. It is hard to attain it because both the Israeli right and Hamas don't agree. It really is the best compromise.
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union wrote:I think the current Israeli attack against the Palestinians and this entire ongoing conflict is caused by the collective trauma the Jewish people have experienced through countless ages manifesting itself through hyper aggression. After hundreds of years of languishing in exile, the Jews have finally regained control of their most holy and ancient land, a piece of real estate granted to them by Yahweh himself, and they are keen on guarding it. There is no way the Jews will be forced from their land again, because today they rely not on the power of Yahweh to protect their borders but an effective and valorous military and a stockpile of nukes. The Palestinians must realize that the Jews are not going to leave the land, must accept Israel's legitimacy and right to exist, the reality that Israel will not return to the 1947 border, and that there is no right to return. The land the Palestinian currently occupy, the West Bank and Gaza, will become their state. The world, taking responsibility for Israel's aggressive actions, must pressure the Palestinians to accept this. Then, and only then, can we begin to convince Israel to come to the table of peace. I think it's reasonable to request that Israel compensate those who lost properties in the the Jewish take over, compensate those who have been unjustly killed in Israel's attacks, bring to justice those responsible for disproportionate retaliations, grant East Jerusalem as the capital of the Palestinian state, immediately withdraw from all settlements, and effectively safeguard and ensure the rights and equality of Israeli Arabs.

Both sides must make serious and painful comprises for there to be peace.
Your soltion is good but it really deprives the palestinians. Arab countries should take in palestinian refugees and grant them citizenship. The land of israel is like 0.16% of all Arab land (excluding Somalia.) I'd suggest that somalia gives out a chunk of her land to settle palestinian refugees (about 500,000.) Once somalia does this, other Muslim nations will be ashamed and they'll take in palestinians.
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Home is where the heart is. Palestinians want their own land where their fathers and grandfathers were born.
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