Something To Get Off My Chest: Somalis/Gaza Situation

[Murax]

In general looking at the reaction of many Somalis to the Gaza situation, primarly the youth but even some of the older generation makes Me kinda disgusted. Let Me preface this by saying that, ofcourse Palestine are our Brothes and Sisters and We feel for their plight but doesn't charity start at home? Somalia is the worst humanitarian disaster in the entire world. The malnutrition rate, health state, education situation is unparalleled anywhere in the world. Forget, Gaza even Darfour according to UN observers is less of a humanitarian disaster than Somalia. Okay I know I was not born in Somalia, have never been there but it bothers Me When I see Somali Qaxootis who came here in 1995 at the earliest with Palestinian Cimmamads and so sensationalized by whats happening in Gaza yet will not flinch or blink at the Greek Tragedy that is Somalia. I know the reason for this, with this social media madness, twitter, facebook and people's constant need for attention and fitting in, it explains why Somalis would get so wrapped up into this. On the flipside I can understand why they would be numb, apathetic to the situation in Somalia. Somalia's gets no media coverage, or publicity. The reason for this is not because Somalia is not the saddest situation on the globe today, but because Somalia really has no advocates or people who care. Palestine at the end of the day share kinship, culture, language with the World's Oil Producers as well as the most wealthy part of the planet. While the Arab League never gets anything done, they do a good job of at least causing enough of a rucous in the UN for them to have sessions on Palestine. In addition they do help out there with humanitarian, devleopment projects in the hundreds of millions of dollars in Gaza. The EU, US really don't care much for Somalia either which expains why they'll have high level UN Observer's in Palestine, and 3rd rate primitive AU forces in Somalia.


So now We know Somalia has no external friends or advocates, but what I find even sadder and more pathetic is their own natives are more wrapped up in what happens in other parts of the world than Somalia. I tried to find the reason for this and it finally hit Me. Somali hatred, envy, bitterness against each other on a tribal basis has eroded the necessary self identity needed to have self pride as a Somali. When You hate Your fellow Somali natives, yet are all "Akhi, akhi, Habibi" with Arabs or what not, I can understand why they will be immersed in other Countries plights even though Your Countries plight is 1 million times worse. Somalia's Capital Has been the home of warlords, major human rights violations by AS, Ethiopia, Uganda, etc. Yet I'm supposed to not care about that, and be up in arms over Gaza? Why shouldn't I be concerned about the ileagal fishing off Bari's coast, or the warlords in the South? On My end, Yes I do engage in tribal talk and useless maala yacni stuff from time to time. Honestly I'm trolling, and I'd like to think that I do see the big picture and never would I care more about whats happening in Gaza or anywhere else than whats happening in Mogadishu, Gaarisa, Burco, Kismayo, Bari, no way no how. There is absolutely nothing anyone here or anywhere can ever say to Me that would make Me forget and lose perspective about who I am to the rest of the world. At the end of the day I do realize that to the rest of the world I'm not Marehan, Darood, whatever but I am a destitute Somali. The actions of the Pirate I have to own it. The actions of the blood thristy warlord I have to own it. Te action of the simpleton terrorist I have to own it. The action of the corrupt, inept 'Gov' official I have to own it. I'm a prideful person, and I want respect. Even though I was not born in Somalia, I do not want the name 'Somali' to be something that the people of the world find repulsive.


I've realized the situation in Somalia is truly hopeless when they have no external friends, however even more disturbing while their citizens, natives, disaspora are supposed to realize this and compensate by being more passionate about helping We have the case of the exact opposite Where We range from apathetic to down right hostile to Somalia doing well because of tribe or other reasons. Again while I occassionally shoot the crap on these matters I do feel I"m able to compartmentalize and seperate joke from reality and see the big picture. Others though may not have that ability and will take tribal cuqdad to the level where even the notion of a Somali idenity becomes a odd notion for them. So I will no longer joke about something that may be very serious for somebody else and screw up their mentality. I will also turn over a new leaf and no longer engage in primitive divisive talk but rather promote good ideas, and solidarity. My eyes have definitely opened

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Gaza is much different than Somalia. Somalia fucked it up when they had the chance, Palestinians/Gazans had never the chance. They been under jewish occupation for the last damned 60 years. As for us, qabilism made us refugee.

[metamorphosis]

At least we have the right and the opportunities to make something of ourselves and build our nation but we are incapable. In somalia somalians are the roadblock and they are the ones hindering any type of success. In Palestine those rights arent allowed at all. They are basically a colony of Israel. There is the difference.

[Substance]

Good read and I agree. But I tend not compare tragedy, both are sad cases indeed.

[Enlightened~Sista]

Wow Murax such an impassioned speech.....hurraaaah!


I don't watch news anymore, and haven't done so in aaages now; I just can't be bothered with it all to be honest. Btw, I applaud you on giving up even joking about tribal stuff, it makes one look bad, low class and primitive.

[SahanGalbeed]

Somalia HAS external friends , advocates and donors . That's a FACT!
All Somalis are not the same .
Somalis are made of tribes , we know who used when it suited them
Somalis according to their tribal distribution organize themselves .
I am not a terrorist nor is a terrorist allowed to operate where I come from I don't have to put up with it
I am not a pirate nor a pirate is allowed to operate where I come from I don't have to put up with it
We don't need Kenya , Uganda , Burundi , Sierra Leone the US , GB or enybody else to tell us how to organize our lives I don't have to put up with it
That's what's up !

[daiman]

[quote="Murax"]In general looking at the reaction of many Somalis to the Gaza situation, primarly the youth but even some of the older generation makes Me kinda disgusted.''


I stopped reading after these two lines ( the rest I just skimmed it through).

Let me tell you this my friend and it is simple. No matter where you are at your life, who you are, in what situation you are in, the pain of other Muslims touches us. Also do not understamate that the reaction of every Muslim counts in situations like this. Somalis as Muslims, memeber of Arabic league have a say in all matters that concerns both Arabs and Muslims. Forget the Arabic league, but as Muslim, I will feel the pain of those in Burma, Palastine, Ogaden and so on. Our feelings and reactions are very individual yet a duty to every Muslim. As Muslims, we do not have to have a global or a particular government or sucess to react or feel for others. Those who are trying to oppress Muslims should fear that every Muslim ( the black, the brown, the hungary one and so on) might come to the aid for the other. Isreal would be conscoius that the ''huagry'' qaxooti somalis might sacriface for the plight of thier Palastinian Muslims or the Burma government should know that there are Muslims out there who are watching. Our individual spirit counts and is required. Remember, somalis and somalia is still on the map and in someway thriving ( in bussiness means) because of your individual duty towards our relatives, friends and so on. In addition, we pay zakat every year. It is all comes down to individual responsibility.

if you are in a hospital in an acute pain and you see another one with similar and worse situation, you would surely be able to feel the pain of the other. You can also express your sympathy for the other patient. same goes for us too( for feeling the pain of other Muslims).
Edit: on a second thought. I share much of the sentament with the Murah, just still feel my reaction is very individual.

[PrinceDaadi]

I read the whole post which made a lot of sense then looked who posted and felt bad. what a hypocrisy! The Poster of this thread usually choose qabiil over qaran and has the audacity to come here and preach us?

[Shirib]

The situation in Palestine is much worst than that of Somalia. Palestine has a real enemy that is destroying killing them.

In Somalia you can do no right.

[Murax]

Damien,

I prefaced My post in the beginning by saying we feel for our brothers/sisters in Palestine. However if We are talking from a Religious standpoint, charity starts at home. Allah told the Prophet Muhammad SAW'Warn Your closest relatives' (Sura Shu'ara) first. When the Prophet started giving Da'wah in Makkah, He started with His personal family, then His subclan Bani Hashim, then His Tribe Quraysh, then the Arab Tribes, then Rome, Persia so on. What greater good is there to spread than Islam, yet the Prophet SAW prioritized this good according to those closest to Him. LIkewise in the Quran many times when charity is discussed, Allah says the Sadaqa is for relatives first, then everybody else. Again we feel for our brothers and sisters in Palestine, however there is prioritization of effort which I define as time and money. That effort should be prioritized to Your people first.


To everybody talking about How Somalia is better than Palestine because we are soverign and 'control our destiny' this is a ridiculous statement. Infact I will say Somalia is no more free than Palestine today. The Country is teeming with foreign troops, who came against the will of the Somalis and You have a Somali 'Government' that is not independent but takes orders form other Countries. So Somalia/Palestine are in the same boat as far as sovereignty goes, but the difference is Gaza is way, way better off from a humanitarian situation.

[original dervish]

Somalis are their own worst enemy.

[SahanGalbeed]

The Country is teeming with foreign troops, who came against the will of the Somalis and You have a Somali 'Government' that is not independent but takes orders form other Countries.

Again that is not factually true

Ethiopia was invited by Abullahi Yusuf , he was president as far as I know

Amisom had an African mandate agreed upon by the then president of Somalia

Kenya was invited by the Ogadens , as matter of fact most of the marehan supported Kenya thinking they're gonna give them the upper hand .
In conclusion both the Palestinians and the Somalis from Southern Somalia are my brothers but they're both losers .

[daiman]

Murax,

On a second thought, i reread your original post fully and chnaged my opinion. I agree and yes, I can see our hyporricy or thoughtlessness ( something that is not new to us) , but I stll beleive that as an inividual Muslim, I still feel for others and the facts that i live in the West I would take all the opportunity to be heard ( on behalf of others).

[Murax]

The situation in Palestine is much worst than that of Somalia. Palestine has a real enemy that is destroying killing them.

In Somalia you can do no right.

What do You call 21 years of the first 15, ruthless blood thirsty warlords, followed by the last 6 years of Terrorists, Ethiopian, Ugandan, Burundian, Kenyan soldiers shelling away while Somalis are caught in the middle not to mention one of the worst droughts in the last century? For one I don't think it makes if any worse who does the 'destroying' as You say but if You wanna go there there are other Countries who did and do the same thing in Somalia. These attacks in Gaza occur once every 2-3 years. For Somalia its been life for EVERY DAY for the past 21 years.




SahanGalbeed,

I said the Somali people, not Somali induviduals who might as well not be Somali because they are serving others.

[Shirib]

To everybody talking about How Somalia is better than Palestine because we are soverign and 'control our destiny' this is a ridiculous statement. Infact I will say Somalia is no more free than Palestine today. The Country is teeming with foreign troops, who came against the will of the Somalis and You have a Somali 'Government' that is not independent but takes orders form other Countries. So Somalia/Palestine are in the same boat as far as sovereignty goes, but the difference is Gaza is way, way better off from a humanitarian situation.

Absolutely false

No one is Somalia is coming to peoples homes destroying them and kicking them out of it, so Ugandans, Burundians, Kenyans can move in.

This is what is happening in Palestine.