If not for British expulsion, Sade would be majority of NFD

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If not for British expulsion, Sade would be majority of NFD

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The Northern Frontier District today known as Northeastern Province is the Somali populated area of Kenya

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It was historically three districts: Mandera, Wajeer, and Garisa with Wajeer the biggest and Manera and Garisa same size. Today there are 4 with Garisa have been broken into Ijara (for the tiny hamlet of Masalani where Yusuf Haji finds his parliamentary seat) and Garisa.

There was a time when Beesha Sade ran over an entire 2/3 of the NFD, in Wajeer and Mandera. I think the Marehan on Snet have said many times they fought in British Jubbaland and when the ones left over in NFD refused to pay taxes, the British pushed all of them out. For example this is how Beled-Xaawo got started--the lady it was named after died recently I think. They were escaping the British pogram.

In the other topic about Jubbaland, I came across this quote
Accompanied by 30 men from the Camel Corps and 30 mounted-infantry, he then proceeded towards Marehan country from Wajir to Elwak.
The United Nations Development Program magazine for Kenya on NFD information has this:

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http://www.ke.undp.org/index.php/resources/download/34

Today Beesha Sade, after half a century after the pogroms, is making steps for comeback as we have witnessed the clashes Marehan nomads have engaged recently in Boru Hache, Mandera, and even back to Wajeer

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Why were marehan divided into the Hassan, the Isaaq and the Galti?
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DANGIRL wrote:Why were marehan divided into the Hassan, the Isaaq and the Galti?
Marehan are mostly divided into Hassan and Isaaq. rer Hassan are mostly original pioneers (Guri) while most of rer Isaaq excluding clans like reer Cismaan, Talxe, Soonfure, etc came after British war as second immigrants (Galti). Galti was anyone who came after the British war the last 70 years.

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Marehan two main geneological divisions = Hassan and Isaaq
Marehan three man migration levels = Guri (1st), Galti (2nd), Qax (post-1991)

Funny, in 1994 when most original rer Gedo supported Al Itihad and Qax supported SNF, both the Guri and Galti became one group and the the Qax (post-1991) became the new Galti.
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Why say sade when they(facaye) are never mention anywhere except in Wikipedia ? :?
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I have met two Facaye families in my life. One from Caabudwaaq and the other from Baardheere. I am told there are a lot in Ethiopia.
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The`Republic wrote:I have met two Facaye families in my life. One from Caabudwaaq and the other from Baardheere. I am told there are a lot in Ethiopia.
How many would you say? 500? 1000?
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know voltage claimming wajir and habasweyne. :wtf:
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Dangirl's infatuation with Facaye :wow:
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The_Patriot wrote:know voltage claimming wajir and habasweyne. :wtf:
:lol: :lol:
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Murax wrote:Dangirl's infatuation with Facaye :wow:
I hope to meet these rare creatures before I die. :sadcam:
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DANGIRL wrote:
Murax wrote:Dangirl's infatuation with Facaye :wow:
I hope to meet these rare creatures before I die. :sadcam:
:gladbron: :dead: :deadrose:
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Patriot-

I am not sure you understood what "if" means and analysis of history means. We are talking about a hitorical fact here imprinted in the Kenya UNDP research paper that says the British banished Marehan from the Northeastern Province and then expelled the rest to the borders of Italian Somalia.

Now "if" that had not happened is totally different than looking at "if" it happened.

Basic logic seems to trouble some here.

p.s. There is really nothing to claim about Habaasweyne and even Wajeer for that matter. I have seen both and I was less impressed than I was by Garisa, Habaasweyne obviously not even relevant to name with the other two.
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Dannie-

Please pay a visit to Baardheere, there is a Facaye neighborhood there.

http://wikimapia.org/5408001/Xaafada-Facaye
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The`Republic wrote:Patriot-

I am not sure you understood what "if" means and analysis of history means. We are talking about a hitorical fact here imprinted in the Kenya UNDP research paper that says the British banished Marehan from the Northeastern Province and then expelled the rest to the borders of Italian Somalia.

Now "if" that had not happened is totally different than looking at "if" it happened.

Basic logic seems to trouble some here.

p.s. There is really nothing to claim about Habaasweyne and even Wajeer for that matter. I have seen both and I was less impressed than I was by Garisa, Habaasweyne obviously not even relevant to name with the other two.
Dude keep on concoting fairly tales and I will surely not entertain it.
If there was no British then it would be mostly at your disadvantaged.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:
DANGIRL wrote:
Murax wrote:Dangirl's infatuation with Facaye :wow:
I hope to meet these rare creatures before I die. :sadcam:
:gladbron: :dead:
:deadrose:
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