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Did Egal create Saaxil by annexing parts of Awdal

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I know this is the case for Gabiley State which Sacad muse got. Damn Gudaboursi need to stop loosing land to Habar Awal, and recently the lugahaya case its a sad case really.

I read from articles from years back written when Saaxil was created last night i will find it soon. By NYtimes and also archives from Garxajis Vs the rest war i didnt know western media was reporting on this on conflict.
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SD got their warning in lugahaya :ufdup:
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I`ve already seen this video. what good is a warning its months old.
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Lol at losing land.. the fake Gabiley map doesn't exist according to Awdalites. the borders of Awdal is the same as in 1991 it stretches untill the outskirts of Bulxaar any man from Awdal will tell you that.
Saaxil was actually created out of Waqooyi galbeed province.
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lol@ bulaxaar the sacadmuse gadabuursi border is in the lughaye district
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Dhibada taagan hadii manta Samaroon lagu heesto Deegmada Lughaye. :lol:
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I don't know about annexing but apparently Habar Awal do live in Lughaya district. They gotten an MP in that district in the recent council elections.
Xildhibaanada kaso baaxay golaha deegaanka Lughaya.

8.Sacad Nuur Xaaji Jaamac - UCID (Reer Xareed, Habar Awal).
http://boramanews.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=53
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guys lets not confuse clan borders with province borders... clan borders: Gadabuursi reaches as far as Gabiley. there are more gadabuursi in Gabiley than Isaaq in Lughaye.

province borders: Awdal reaches as far as Bulxaar. from Bulxaar starts the Waqoyi galbeed province (Saaxil and Gabiley are made up)

as for the elections it's true that only 1 single Isaaq came out of Lughaye and 3 Ciise while Samaroon got 9. plus there were Gadabursi candidates campaigning (like Cabdillaahi Cabdi Bukhaari) in Gabiley got high votes and they were robbed.
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Mondey wrote:guys lets not confuse clan borders with province borders... clan borders: Gadabuursi reaches as far as Gabiley. there are more gadabuursi in Gabiley than Isaaq in Lughaye.

province borders: Awdal reaches as far as Bulxaar. from Bulxaar starts the Waqoyi galbeed province (Saaxil and Gabiley are made up)

as for the elections it's true that only 1 single Isaaq came out of Lughaye and 3 Ciise while Samaroon got 9. plus there were Gadabursi candidates campaigning (like Cabdillaahi Cabdi Bukhaari) in Gabiley got high votes and they were robbed.

True that. My neighbors are Gaadabirsi and they are from Gabiley and infact they told me they are related to Mo Farah, the runner. Who's both grandmothers are Gaadabirsi.
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Mondey wrote:guys lets not confuse clan borders with province borders... clan borders: Gadabuursi reaches as far as Gabiley. there are more gadabuursi in Gabiley than Isaaq in Lughaye.

province borders: Awdal reaches as far as Bulxaar. from Bulxaar starts the Waqoyi galbeed province (Saaxil and Gabiley are made up)

as for the elections it's true that only 1 single Isaaq came out of Lughaye and 3 Ciise while Samaroon got 9. plus there were Gadabursi candidates campaigning (like Cabdillaahi Cabdi Bukhaari) in Gabiley got high votes and they were robbed.
Intresting. Do samaroon live inside the town of gabiley in high numbers?
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Well that still doesn't change the fact Lughaya district of Awdal is shared by several sub clans. Furthermore according to reliable maps the border
between Awdal and Waqooyi Galbeed is outskirts of Ceel Sheekh not Bulahar which is further east.

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Yes Ceelsheekh it is. they actually look much closer in other maps CS and BLXR.
if Lughaya is shared so is Gabiley.

Notorious yes they live there in significant numbers.
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kan asadku waa boorash, tollow ma habar awal ba karbaashay :holdup:

yes it's true that awdal region borders bulaxaar - using the original borders, sacad muuse has more land in awdal than gadabursi do in gabiley. Gadabursi only settle in a few villages on the border such as ceelbardaale which is the meeting point. Its laughable to say that they reach up to the city of gabiley - they do live there but not as a deegaan but as relatives to JB families, same way isaaq live in borama and saylac.
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Its actually Afweyne who gave habar awal land to Samaroon when the Awdal region was created along Sool under the advice of Jaamac Jengali as he put it " to make the Isaaq a sandwitched" by arming Daarood and Gedabursi clans.
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Re: Did Egal create Saaxil by annexing parts of Awdal

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Cumar-Labasuul wrote:kan asadku waa boorash, tollow ma habar awal ba karbaashay :holdup:

yes it's true that awdal region borders bulaxaar - using the original borders, sacad muuse has more land in awdal than gadabursi do in gabiley. Gadabursi only settle in a few villages on the border such as ceelbardaale which is the meeting point. Its laughable to say that they reach up to the city of gabiley - they do live there but not as a deegaan but as relatives to JB families, same way isaaq live in borama and saylac.
whos asad ??

no you are wrong,, theres nothing called relatives Gadabuursi live not only in the surroundings of GAbiley but town itself as well which even makes the waqooyi galbeed province even shared, Ceelbardaale is out of the question. Isaaq in Lughaya district only co-exist with Bahaber muuse (maxamed casse) and xeeb jire (Habar affan) in ceelsheekh and sabwanaag they don't even reach Lughaya town. Lughaya twon is a majority Maxamed Casse and few Ciise.
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