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Largest opposition:Sland Sovergienty is not for negotiation

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The leader of the largest opposition party in Somaliland Wadani or the Patriot and also the head of the Somaliland parliament puts it like it is and says the talks will more
likely breakdown if Somalia tries to bring the idea of union to the table and Somaliland sovergienty is not up for negotation as 97% of the population voted in favor of
separation in 2001 Somaliland referendum.


Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Oo Daboolka Ka Qaaday Waxyaalaha Fashilin Kara Wadahadalada S/Land Iyo Somalia, Sheegayna In Aftidii Shacbiga Ee Gooni Isku Taaga
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Hargaysa-(HWN0-Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Somaliland, isla markaana ah gudoomiyaha xisbiga Wadani Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Cabdillaahi (Ciro) ayaa sheegay in qaranimada
Somaliland Madaxbanaanideeda aan wax gorgortan iyo wada hadal ah laga gali karin, waxaanu tilmaamay in wada hadalada Somaliland iyo Somalia haddii ay la gole yimaadaan
midnimo masuuliyiinta Somalia ay taasi soo dedajinayso in wada hadaladu fashilmaan, waxaanu intaa ku daray in siyaasada qaranimada Somaliland ay tiir dhexaad u tahay aftidii
shacbiga Somaliland ay ku ogolaadeen gooni isku taaga 97%. Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanku waxa kale oo uu sheegay in wixii taabanaya masiirka qaranimada go?aan wada tashi ay
ka qaadanayaan golayaasha qaranka iyo xisbiyada siyaasadu. Waxa kale oo uu gudoomiye Cabdiraxmaan Ciro sheegay inay soo dhawaynayaan madaxda iyo taageerayaashii
ururadii ku hadhay doorashadii golayaasha deegaanadu inay ku soo biiraan xisbiga wadani, taas oo uu tibaaxay in qaar ka mid ah ururadii hadhay uu wada hadal dhexmaray.
Gudoomiyaha golaha wakiiladu waxa uu sidaasi ku sheegay xogwaraysi khaasa oo uu shalay wargeyska Haatuf kula yeeshay xarunta golaha wakiilada, ugu horayna gudoomiyaha
oo aanu waydiinay hadalada ka soo yeedhay Raysal wasaaraha Somalia ee uu ku sheegay in wada hadalada Somaliland ay ku doonayaan midnimo dhexmarta labada dal, isagoo ka hadlayana arrinkaasina waxa uu yidhi ?Somaliland waa qaran Somalia ka da? weyn oo dawladnimada ka hor qaatay, waa qaran markii hore ikhtiyaarkiisa ugu biiray Somalia, waa
qaran markii danbe-na shacbigiisu go?aansaday inay kala soo noqdaan qaranimadoodii iyo madaxbanaanidoodii 18-kii May 1991-kii, waa qaran doonaya in daris wanaag lala wadaago dhamaanba dawladaha jaarka ah, Somaliland waxay ogolaatay sanadkii hore in Somalia lala hadlo, laakiin siyaasada somaliland waxaa tiir dhexaad u ah aftidii laga qaaday shacbiga Somaliland ee 97% ay ku ogolaadeen madaxbanaanida iyo gooni isku taaga Somaliland, taasaana lagu heshiiyay oo aan qarsoodina ahayn in loo wada hadlo Somaliland iyo Somalia,
ujeedo kaliya ayay ka lahayd beesha Caalamku ay joogaan in qadiyadeeda ay ka hadasho, Somaliland wada hadalada waxay ka rabtaa Somaliland oo madaxbanaan iyo daris wanaag, Somalia haday midnimo ka rabto somaliland dee waa arrin u gaar ah Somalia ama madaxweyne ha yidhaahdo ama raysal-wasaare ha yidhaahdo waxaa lama taabtaan ah inm shacbiga Somaliland ay ku go?aansadeen madaxbanaanidooda aftidii lagu go?aamiyay in Somaliland ay gooni isku taagto, aftidaasina cid badali kartaa ma jirto?.

S: Golayaashiina Baarlamaanku miyaydaan door ku lahayn inaydin kala qayb qaadataan xukuumada wada hadalada Somalia maadaama ay tahay arrin qaran?

J: Qaran ahaan xukuumadaynu wakiilanay, laakiin talada qaranka waa la wada leeyahay golayaasha qaranka ha noqoto, wixii masiira ee weyn waxay noqonaysaa in laga wada
tashado ama golayaasha qaranka ha noqoto ama axsaabta qaranka ha noqotee.

S: Gudoomiye ma noo sheegi kartaa mustaqbalka siyaasadeed ee xisbiga wadani maadaama uu noqday xisbigii saddexaad ee u soo biira xisbiyada qaranka?

J: Wadani waxa uu noday xisbigii saddexaad ee ku soo biira axsaabta Somaliland tobankii sano ee u dambeeyay waxa uu noqday guri dambayskii Somaliland, waa xisbi aanu
ugu baaqayno ururadii aan ku guulaysan xisbinimada madaxdoodii iyo taageerayaashoodii inuu u furan yahay, oo uu qofkastaa xubin iyo madaxba ka noqon karo, waa xisbi
doonaya inuu ummada mideeyo oo dalka horumarkiisa ka shaqeeyo, mustaqbal fiican baanu rajaynaynaa, mahada horena Ilaahay baa iska leh ta dambena shacbiga Somaliland
ee iyagu doortay inay codkooda siiyaan xisbiga wadani, sababna waxa u ahaa guusha uu xisbiga wadani keenay shacbiga reer Somaliland.

S: Waxaa la sheegay in qaar ka mid ah ururadii ku hadhay doorashada ay idiin socdaan wada hadalo ku saabsan sidii xisbiga wadani ay ugu soo biiri lahaayeen,
maxaa ka jira?


J: Ururadii aan guulaysan waanu soo dhawaynaynaa, qaar aanu wada hadalnayna way jireen, laakiin natiijada waxa laga arki karaa marka ay soo baxdo.

S: Haddii dawlada Somalia ay wada hadalada Somaliland la gole yimaadaan midnimo Soomaaliyeed oo mawqifkaasi ay istaagaan maxaad ka odhan lahayd?

J: Taasi waxay ila tahay waxay soo dhawaynaysaa in wada hadalku fashilmo, balse Somaliland madaxbanaanideeda cid gorgortan iyo wada hadal lagala galayaa ma jirto,
cid badali kartaana ma jirto masiirka shacbiga, qaranimada Somaliland-na waa lama taabtaan?.Xigasho/Haatuf.

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If the talks are not for union what does he think he is doing?

They are trying to play the 'we're grown men card'. If it was up to them they wouldn't even be having talks to with Somalia.

As if United Nations is assembling them to talk about the sand near S/land.
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Well as you can see this guy is a true descendant of Quraysh Arabs it is rumored his paternal DNA is J1 or T hablogroup why should he share a country with the
the Bantu majority country Somalia. Joke.
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The talks are for your own good, fellow Isaaq countrymen. You guys couldn't defeat civilians that have lived peacefully for 20 years. What makes you think you can challenge over 15 thousand, blood-thirsty, fighters from Southern Somalia, consisting of all Clans (Daarod, Hawiye, Dir, Rahanwein)? Let's be honest, Beesha Isaaq never wanted to secede from Somalia. This whole Somaliland issue is their way to negotiate to get a piece of the pie they don't deserve.
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Siciid85 wrote:Well as you can see this guy is a true descendant of Quraysh Arabs it is rumored his paternal DNA is J1 or T hablogroup why should he share a country with the
the Bantu majority country Somalia. Joke.
All Somalis are descendant from Arabs, take a DNA test yourself and see.
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Isaaq is Hawiyes brother, they would be so saddened and ashamed to see what is happening.

Then again, Somalis don't see it that way.
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Waryaada whats the point of these talks?
Somalia wants union, isaaq wants secession.

Wallahi the whites are troublemakers.

Btw nice comeback of the parliament speaker lol
He replied to Mudane Jawaari Qarandoon with just a minute difference.
The war of parliament speakers? :mindblown:




Hydrogen what the hell are you talking about.
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Coldoon wrote:The talks are for your own good, fellow Isaaq countrymen. You guys couldn't defeat civilians that have lived peacefully for 20 years. What makes you think you can challenge over 15 thousand, blood-thirsty, fighters from Southern Somalia, consisting of all Clans (Daarod, Hawiye, Dir, Rahanwein)? Let's be honest, Beesha Isaaq never wanted to secede from Somalia. This whole Somaliland issue is their way to negotiate to get a piece of the pie they don't deserve.


Take notes. History lessons 101.

The liberation of Odweyne and Caynabo.
Meanwhile, SNM forces have pushed the front towards the east by taking Odweina on February 15 and Ainabo, 120 km east of Burao on the road by Mogadishu, at the end of the month. They claimed to have killed over 1,000 SNA soldiers.

1988,Country report: Uganda, Ethiopia, Somalia, Djibouti,Economist Intelligence Unit (Great Britain).

The attack on SNA military camps at Lebisagale, Qorilugud and Wadaa-Mogo.
The sources said the operation took place on March 3rd and was followed by clashes between retreating SNM units and Somali ... The SNM said its units had also attacked government army camps at Lebisagale, Qorilugud and Wadaa- mogo.

1986, Africa research bulletin:
Political series, Volume 23, Issues 1-11
The successful attack on Mandheera prison freeing many SNM prisoners.
The SNM began guerrilla operations inside Somalia during 1982 and in early January 1983 mounted a successful attack on a prison at Mandera (south of the port of Berbera), freeing over 700 prisoners, including several political detainees.

Revolutionary and dissident movements:
an international guide,Henry W. Degenhardt.
The infamous incident where the SNA was chased out all the way to Djibouti.
On 5 May 1990, the SNM attacked SNA units in Loyada, a small settlement along the Somali-Djiboutian border. The attack occurred when an SNM column departed Loyada after holding discussions with Djiboutian military authorities.
Liberation of Balidhiig.
With this development, the image of the SNM as a national political and military force had been improving. ... Somali frontier towns of Lebi- Sagaro and Baligubadlen, while holding the town of Balidhig which was captured in late 1985.

Africa today,Raph Uwechue.
The SNM inflicting heavy losses on the SNA in the area around Qorilugud and Balidhiig in 1986.
Image
Sub-Saharan Africa report: Issues 31-35 .

The courageous SNM striking against the SNA in Gabiley, Odweyne and Burco area in 1986.
The SNM claims an upsurge in activity The Somali National Movement (SNM) responded to the attempted government ... Most of these apparently took place in the Gebile area west of Hargeisa, and in the Odweine and Burao districts of Togdheer.
Country report:
Uganda, Ethiopia, Somalia, Djibouti,Economist Intelligence Unit (Great Britain).
:Shrug: :Shrug:
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CaynabaX wrote:
Coldoon wrote:The talks are for your own good, fellow Isaaq countrymen. You guys couldn't defeat civilians that have lived peacefully for 20 years. What makes you think you can challenge over 15 thousand, blood-thirsty, fighters from Southern Somalia, consisting of all Clans (Daarod, Hawiye, Dir, Rahanwein)? Let's be honest, Beesha Isaaq never wanted to secede from Somalia. This whole Somaliland issue is their way to negotiate to get a piece of the pie they don't deserve.


Take notes. History lessons 101.

The liberation of Odweyne and Caynabo.
Meanwhile, SNM forces have pushed the front towards the east by taking Odweina on February 15 and Ainabo, 120 km east of Burao on the road by Mogadishu, at the end of the month. They claimed to have killed over 1,000 SNA soldiers.

1988,Country report: Uganda, Ethiopia, Somalia, Djibouti,Economist Intelligence Unit (Great Britain).

The attack on SNA military camps at Lebisagale, Qorilugud and Wadaa-Mogo.
The sources said the operation took place on March 3rd and was followed by clashes between retreating SNM units and Somali ... The SNM said its units had also attacked government army camps at Lebisagale, Qorilugud and Wadaa- mogo.

1986, Africa research bulletin:
Political series, Volume 23, Issues 1-11
The successful attack on Mandheera prison freeing many SNM prisoners.
The SNM began guerrilla operations inside Somalia during 1982 and in early January 1983 mounted a successful attack on a prison at Mandera (south of the port of Berbera), freeing over 700 prisoners, including several political detainees.

Revolutionary and dissident movements:
an international guide,Henry W. Degenhardt.
The infamous incident where the SNA was chased out all the way to Djibouti.
On 5 May 1990, the SNM attacked SNA units in Loyada, a small settlement along the Somali-Djiboutian border. The attack occurred when an SNM column departed Loyada after holding discussions with Djiboutian military authorities.
Liberation of Balidhiig.
With this development, the image of the SNM as a national political and military force had been improving. ... Somali frontier towns of Lebi- Sagaro and Baligubadlen, while holding the town of Balidhig which was captured in late 1985.

Africa today,Raph Uwechue.
The SNM inflicting heavy losses on the SNA in the area around Qorilugud and Balidhiig in 1986.
Image
Sub-Saharan Africa report: Issues 31-35 .

The courageous SNM striking against the SNA in Gabiley, Odweyne and Burco area in 1986.
The SNM claims an upsurge in activity The Somali National Movement (SNM) responded to the attempted government ... Most of these apparently took place in the Gebile area west of Hargeisa, and in the Odweine and Burao districts of Togdheer.
Country report:
Uganda, Ethiopia, Somalia, Djibouti,Economist Intelligence Unit (Great Britain).
:Shrug: :Shrug:

Actually coldoon made a point. While u guys were chilling in peace, the koonfurians were training in the time chamber meanwhile they fought against each other.
That makes them extremely reliable in warfare.
So the southern daroods are more aggresieve than dhulbahante. Even jareerweyne got some of the fighting skills, learned from the major top dogs. :blessed:
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Guys don't be silly Walanweyns(Somalians) are in no position to wage war against Somaliland they have learned their lesson in the past 20 years I am sure they don't want
another big curse that kills millions of their people.Surely those who wage war against the holy land suffer badly.
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HutuKing01 wrote: Even jareerweyne got some of the fighting skills
Sigh, are they preparing to take over Somalia?
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Loolz king of the hutu u couldnt burst a grape in a fruit fight

Always remember issaq handed u the gun. . Without us u would b tryna fight in xamar using cambulo as rocks :ufdup:
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:lol: @ HutuKing.

Weather they trained or not, if needed we'll tame those fufus, oromos and all the qashin they used 22 years ago once again . :Shrug:
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:lol: hutu king ninyahoow reer abtigaa somaliland maxaad ka rabtaa?
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faraaxoos1 wrote::lol: hutu king ninyahoow reer abtigaa somaliland maxaad ka rabtaa?
Lol

I got love for my waqooyian ikhwa



@ Caynabax, lets find that out. We demand mud fight between you( if u gabar) and koonfurian girl :whew:
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