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An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:24 pm
by guhad122
Sometime ago, the BlueWhite character responded to a question about minority clans in Xamar. His response was that he knows a Majeerteen family that has reclaimed their house and once in a while he checks on them to make sure everything is OK! The concern gesture is all good and his actions should be applauded. But who the hell is he to check on my welfare in what is supposedly my own country in my own capital city? Does anyone trust their properties and lives in Xamar again? And remember that this is not only a concern for the Daaroods as other clans such as Raxan Weyns and Isaaqs have been the victimized by the Hutu's uncivilized ways of doing things. And by the way, I have to mention that Sacad should be exempted on the Hutu characterization as most non-Hutu Somalis have lived in the Sacad areas. There is even a Hutu vs Hutu conflict in the making now in Xamar because Habar-Gidir and Murursade feel disfranchised in Xamar by Abgaal who seem to have taken over the city.
I believe that the only way out of this is mistrust amongst Somalis, for now, is through the federalism system. The Federal government should support this and encourage people to invest, live, and build where they clans live. Federalism will also save Somalia from another single-point of failure scenario where if something happens in Xamar the entire nation collapses. I am a believer of a strong central government as we are the same people, but it will take time to get the trust back!
Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:42 pm
by SiennaEarth
Hutu aa maskaxda kagalay ma istiri?
Quit calacaling
MJ's as well as other darods are allowed to walk freely in xamar. He's probably checking up on them because they haven't been back in 2 decades and he's probably familiar with everything down there. If I was to go back to xamar after 20 something years I would need checking up on too, especially if all my clan fleed the place and there were a small number of them. Has nothing to do with qabilism. If I had a house in bosaso and I was on of the few non Darods there then I would need a friendly darod who's familiar with everything. Lets be real here it's xamar a place which was a war zone, terrorist hub, moryan hub. Things are not going to change over night and unfortunately those that are not familiar with the city or haven't been there for decades need friendly faces.
Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:44 pm
by Thuganomics
who the hell is he to check on my welfare in what is supposedly my own country in my own capital city?

Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:51 pm
by SultanOrder
For goodness sake will just put a lid on it. Can you go any lower than this. . . this emotional child's rant? You are invariably putting Thebluenwhite on a pedestal by painting him as the benevolent guardian who is checking on his guest. Whoever Thebluenwhite chooses to befriend and whoever he chooses to visit is entirely up to him. I can assure you I did not get the sense that he meant anything other than visiting a friend whose family also happens to be taking care of business in Mogadishu. I'm entirely positive that no one other than one whom his vision is clouded by insecurities and tribalism wouldn't get that sense either.
To the rest of your childish rant, I find it strikingly odd and ironic. On one hand you proclaim how it is your country and your capitol, but later on you advocate for segregation based on clan identity.
Next time, do please come when you are in a more. . . tranquil state.
Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:56 pm
by guhad122
Perfect_Order wrote:For goodness sake will just put a lid on it. Can you go any lower than this. . . this emotional child's rant? You are invariably putting Thebluenwhite on a pedestal by painting him as the benevolent guardian who is checking on his guest. Whoever Thebluenwhite chooses to befriend and whoever he chooses to visit is entirely up to him. I can assure you I did not get the sense that he meant anything other than visiting a friend whose family also happens to be taking care of business in Mogadishu. I'm entirely positive that no one other than one whom his vision is clouded by insecurities and tribalism wouldn't get that sense either.
To the rest of your childish rant, I find it strikingly odd and ironic. On one hand you proclaim how it is your country and your capitol, but later on you advocate for segregation based on clan identity.
Next time, do please come when you are in a more. . . tranquil state.
PO,
Your lack of reasoning and intellect tells me that you have no OG blood in you. Get it out of here before I kick you in the small teeth with my size 15 foot.
Your understanding of the language is very challenged!! Go read grammar books.
Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:01 pm
by SiennaEarth
Perfect_Order wrote:For goodness sake will just put a lid on it. Can you go any lower than this. . . this emotional child's rant? You are invariably putting Thebluenwhite on a pedestal by painting him as the benevolent guardian who is checking on his guest. Whoever Thebluenwhite chooses to befriend and whoever he chooses to visit is entirely up to him. I can assure you I did not get the sense that he meant anything other than visiting a friend whose family also happens to be taking care of business in Mogadishu. I'm entirely positive that no one other than one whom his vision is clouded by insecurities and tribalism wouldn't get that sense either.
To the rest of your childish rant, I find it strikingly odd and ironic. On one hand you proclaim how it is your country and your capitol, but later on you advocate for segregation based on clan identity.
Next time, do please come when you are in a more. . . tranquil state.

Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:15 pm
by SiennaEarth
Perfect_Order wrote:For goodness sake will just put a lid on it. Can you go any lower than this. . . this emotional child's rant? You are invariably putting Thebluenwhite on a pedestal by painting him as the benevolent guardian who is checking on his guest. Whoever Thebluenwhite chooses to befriend and whoever he chooses to visit is entirely up to him. I can assure you I did not get the sense that he meant anything other than visiting a friend whose family also happens to be taking care of business in Mogadishu. I'm entirely positive that no one other than one whom his vision is clouded by insecurities and tribalism wouldn't get that sense either.
To the rest of your childish rant, I find it strikingly odd and ironic. On one hand you proclaim how it is your country and your capitol, but later on you advocate for segregation based on clan identity.
Next time, do please come when you are in a more. . . tranquil state.

Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:19 pm
by Osob101
The Family living next to our house are the so called Victims Darood you speak of and last time I was in Xamar they did not have any people watching over them. There are hundreds of thousands of Non-Hawiye in the city so quit with Calcaal

Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:32 pm
by FarhanYare
Euphoriia wrote:Hutu aa maskaxda kagalay ma istiri?
Quit calacaling
MJ's as well as other darods are allowed to walk freely in xamar. He's probably checking up on them because they haven't been back in 2 decades and he's probably familiar with everything down there. If I was to go back to xamar after 20 something years I would need checking up on too, especially if all my clan fleed the place and there were a small number of them. Has nothing to do with qabilism. If I had a house in bosaso and I was on of the few non Darods there then I would need a friendly darod who's familiar with everything. Lets be real here it's xamar a place which was a war zone, terrorist hub, moryan hub. Things are not going to change over night and unfortunately those that are not familiar with the city or haven't been there for decades need friendly faces.
walahi ishaad ka ridaay. well said
Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:37 pm
by FarhanYare
guhad122 wrote:Sometime ago, the BlueWhite character responded to a question about minority clans in Xamar. His response was that he knows a Majeerteen family that has reclaimed their house and once in a while he checks on them to make sure everything is OK! The concern gesture is all good and his actions should be applauded. But who the hell is he to check on my welfare in what is supposedly my own country in my own capital city? Does anyone trust their properties and lives in Xamar again? And remember that this is not only a concern for the Daaroods as other clans such as Raxan Weyns and Isaaqs have been the victimized by the Hutu's uncivilized ways of doing things. And by the way, I have to mention that Sacad should be exempted on the Hutu characterization as most non-Hutu Somalis have lived in the Sacad areas. There is even a Hutu vs Hutu conflict in the making now in Xamar because Habar-Gidir and Murursade feel disfranchised in Xamar by Abgaal who seem to have taken over the city.
I believe that the only way out of this is mistrust amongst Somalis, for now, is through the federalism system. The Federal government should support this and encourage people to invest, live, and build where they clans live. Federalism will also save Somalia from another single-point of failure scenario where if something happens in Xamar the entire nation collapses. I am a believer of a strong central government as we are the same people, but it will take time to get the trust back!

Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:51 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Guhaad,
Saxiib, just stay in the Sacad area and you will be protected. Remember this when you go off on Kablaxax mambo jambo considering you are safer in Xamar than Garowe.

Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:55 pm
by guhad122
I wouldn't have minded that cousin Abdi but according to this Harti Abgaal friend, Sacads are nowhere to be found in Xamar these days. Well, unless you guys have changed your names to Jiisoow, Culusoow, Calasoow, Masagoow, and Waasuge.
Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:59 pm
by TheblueNwhite
War Kan eega. lol
The kids are not in Xamar retard.
I can't be bothered with your calaacal thread. CARRY ON.
Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:02 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Guhad,
We sit on the most exclusive sections of town with the highest real estate prices. We are living large in the Green Zone and everyone is flocking to the Trepiano & Seybiano areas

Economically, we are making money, recovered economically and strangely haven't been political until the cash stacks up right. If we do, we will be felt in from Mudug to Jubboyinka.
Re: An Honest Question?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:13 pm
by STARKAST
AbdiWahab you're qabil heart will destroy you, let alone cripple you.
Federalism is the future as people like the above are rife in Somalia and sadly prevalent in diaspora.