Review of Arms Embargo , & the creation of Strong Army

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Step by step lifting of the Arms Embargo would be great news for Somalia.
Also the National Army must be made stronger, more disciplined.
The most important: make the purchase of military uniform very difficult, to keep terrorists and other nabaddiids out of the picture.
Also punish anyone who is caught selling military clothes, weapons etc.



U.N. chief suggests review of 21-year-old Somalia arms embargo
U.N. chief suggests review of 21-year-old Somalia arms embargo

Michelle Nichols
Saturday, February 02, 2013

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The Security Council should consider lifting an arms embargo on Somalia to help rebuild the country's security forces and consolidate military gains against al Qaeda-linked al Shabaab, U.N.chief Ban Ki-moon suggested in a report Friday.
The council imposed the embargo in 1992 to cut the flow of arms to feuding warlords, who a year earlier ousted dictator Mohamed Siad Barre and plunged Somalia into civil war. Council diplomats said the arms embargo was "under discussion" as the delegations have not reached a final agreement.

Somalia's president and prime minister were elected last year in the country's first national vote since 1991.

"Enhanced efforts are ... urgently needed to develop the Somali National Security Forces," Ban said in the report to the 15-member council. "In this regard, the Security Council may wish to consider the repeated request by the government for lifting the arms embargo."

Somalia wants help strengthening its poorly equipped and often ill-disciplined military that is more of a loosely affiliated umbrella group of rival militias than a cohesive fighting force loyal to a single president.

There are 17,600 U.N.-mandated African Union peacekeepers helping battle the Islamist rebels in Somalia. The African Union has also appealed to the Security Council to review the arms embargo on Somalia.

"Although security has improved considerably in Somalia, the struggle is far from over. The insurgents continue to carry out their attacks using terrorist attacks and targeted assassinations," Ban said.

"These spoilers will seize any opportunity to reverse the gains," he said. "We must continue to stay alert and deny them the space they seek. We should continue to explore the measures already identified, such as travel bans and asset freezes, as we determine when and to whom these must be applied."

Ban also recommended in the report that a new U.N. assistance mission to deliver political and peacebuilding support be established in Somalia and that the Security Council consider a U.N. or joint U.N.-AU peacekeeping mission once the combat operations against Al-Shabaab come to an end.

He said planning for the deployment of the new U.N. assistance mission should take place as soon as possible and that it be based in Somalia instead of neighboring Kenya, now that security has improved.

The Security Council needs to renew the mandate for the AU peacekeeping force in Somalia, known as AMISOM, by early March.

The council is also considering a call to permit the export of stocks of charcoal. It banned the sale abroad of Somali charcoal in last February in an attempt to cut off al Shabaab's funding.

The Security Council's Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea, an independent panel that reports on compliance with U.N. sanctions, says charcoal exports from southern Somalia in 2011 generated over $25 million for al Shabaab. (Editing by Doina Chiacu).

Source: Reuters

[original dervish]

not a good idea.....we can`t have a Govt with too much power.
There must be a balance of power across the country.

Say no to lifting the arms embargo....for at least 10-15 years.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

not a good idea.....we can`t have a Govt with too much power.
There must be a balance of power across the country.

Say no to lifting the arms embargo....for at least 10-15 years.

Are you insane?

We need the arms.
What kind of army functions without arms.

[Somalistan]

arms in the hands of under paid and undisciplined conscripts=Mooryaan 2.0. You pissed 'em once and they blow Villa Somalia into the Indian Ocean.

[original dervish]

The socalled army/ moryaan are raping and murdering civilians they`re supposed to be protecting.

[Substance]

not a good idea.....we can`t have a Govt with too much power.
There must be a balance of power across the country.

Say no to lifting the arms embargo....for at least 10-15 years.

We cant depend on foreign tanks and heavy weaponry for 15 more years.

This process has to begin now so somali armed forces can take back responsibilty to guard our nation. But ofc this process will not be easy. Its not easy to recover a whole nation including the army in a clan based system like Somalia. It will take some time.

There is nothing to gain from avoiding this problem for 15 years it has to be solved.

[PrinceDaadi]

not a good idea.....we can`t have a Govt with too much power.
There must be a balance of power across the country.

Say no to lifting the arms embargo....for at least 10-15 years.

This guy is actually a joke, i can't believe how he thinks, it is so low.

[gurey25]

if there was a darood president he will be all for lifting the embargo as soon as possible.
you are so qabiilist that you wont even be loyal to the somalia that you want to run to from somaliland.


you are in somaliland, deal with it.

[PrinceDaadi]

if there was a darood president he will be all for lifting the embargo as soon as possible.
you are so qabiilist that you wont even be loyal to the somalia that you want to run to from somaliland.


you are in somaliland, deal with it.

War gurey maad naga ceshataan muwaadiniintiina?

[gurey25]

no thank you , you can keep them.

[original dervish]

I don`t deal in "ifs & buts"....Somalis are in no position to have the arms embargo lifted.
At any rate, the embargo will not be lifted any time soon.

[gurey25]

why are you so scared of the arms embrago being lifted?
dont you want somalia to have its armed forces back?
to see AU troops leave?

to no longer be a failed state?

what your problem.

i am a secessionist and i have no issues with the arms embargo getting lifted, why do do ?

[original dervish]

you`ve answered your own question, and at the same time revealed the disgraceful attitude secessionists have towards stability in the south.

[grandpakhalif]

now these arms will fall into an already khat-induced mooryan militia known as the SNA. imaine one of them operating an apache chopper it would be an ultimate disaster.. we would have air borne dog fights between the mooryaans.

[Colonel]

Keep the arms embargo
We wouldn't want to provide heavy weaponry to undisciplined clan militias now would we?