Sahal80

[oldenglish]

Cawrmale..........I thought they were Warsangeli. When did they become Hawiye?

If cawramale are warsangali why they were in USC and now al shabaab?
Cawramale are ancient pre-hawiye clan originally from westren hiraan at baay borders to this day there are carwrame subclans in baay.
they are related to gaaljecel and dagodia .
Warsangali harti just arrived kismaayo as traders and claimed them as there is in sanaag some subclan with that name but didnt work for them.

Prove that point

Since you know so much about my clan Cawramaale who are they majority of Kismaayo and Jubboyinki also residing in parts of Bay and Bakool. Tell us how we aligned with USC, how we became magically apart of Degdheer and Gaalguusjecel.

Isnt it your Cadi Yusuf subclan a minorty amongs a clan claimed by Leelkase.

When did you join Hawiyes?

Plus Cabdi Yusuf is a respected clan of the Warsangelis a MAJOR SUBCLAN OF SOMALIA unlike Degdheer and Gaalguusjecel

[sahal80]

Firstly, I didn't insult cawramale, all I said was them being pre-hawiye as its in the book the invention of somalia that just means being samaal/pre-hawiye.
I said they related to gaaljecel and dagodia because that's in abtirsi.com as gardheere samaale.
I said they were in the usc as I heard.
They pro-government like these links
However as your one of them and I believe to let the people for their history as they see it I won't be talking again about them. End of story

Col cabaas is Gaaljecel

http://spr.fm/index.php?option=com_k2&v ... Itemid=121
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www. ... sfiUfTVaQQ

[original dervish]

seems hawiye fantasy presence in J/Land is reducing by the day.
Good work old English....you busted a large conspiracy.