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In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:37 pm
by TAATIKO
The two decades between 1900 and 1920 were a period of colonial consolidation. However, of the colonial powers that had divided the Somalis, only Italy developed a comprehensive administrative plan for its colony. The Italians intended to plant a colony of settlers and commercial entrepreneurs in the region between the Shabeelle and Jubba rivers in southern Somalia. The motivation was threefold: to "relieve population pressure at home," to offer the "civilizing Roman mission" to the Somalis, and to increase Italian prestige through overseas colonization. Initiated by Governor Carletti (1906-10), Italy's colonial program received further impetus by the introduction of fascist ideology and economic planning in the 1920s, particularly during the administration of Governor Cesare Maria de Vecchi de Val Cismon. Large-scale development projects were launched, including a system of plantations on which citrus fruits, primarily bananas, and sugarcane, were grown. Sugarcane fields in Giohar and numerous banana plantations around the town of Jannaale on the Shabeelle River, and at the southern mouth of the Jubba River near Chisimayu, helped transform southern Somalia's economy.

In contrast to the Italian colony, British Somaliland stayed a neglected backwater. Daunted by the diversion of substantial development funds to the suppression of the dervish insurrection and by the "wild" character of the anarchic Somali pastoralists, Britain used its colony as little more than a supplier of meat products to Aden. This policy had a tragic effect on the future unity and stability of independent Somalia. When the two former colonies merged to form the Somali Republic in 1960, the north lagged far behind the south in economic infrastructure and skilled labor. As a result, southerners gradually came to dominate the new state's economic and political life--a hegemony that bred a sense of betrayal and bitterness among northerners.

http://countrystudies.us/somalia/11.htm

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:40 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Figures. Somaliland was a british protectorate in name only.

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:42 pm
by Thuganomics
Markaana...

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:47 pm
by TAATIKO
that is why southerners dominated the new state?

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:49 pm
by Thuganomics
OK then! Carry on regardless.....

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:53 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
it was nothing to do with infrastructure or development, this is highlighted by the majority of the government being from the north east - and there was next to no development there

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:54 pm
by SultanOrder
Taatiko, actually it's the opposite. After the Union, the norther civil service, which was more well trained then their souther counterparts, dominated in Mogadishu. So much so, that southern civil service employees felt threatened, and tried to prevent them from taking over.

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:00 pm
by Titanium
Both places excelled in certain areas. For example, what Perfect_Order said.

The housing for government workers was "Casa populare" in Hodan District. This was inhabited by government workers, primarily from Somaliland.

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:15 pm
by TAATIKO
Ok it is true that british were useless than Italians? according this report? :ohhh:

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:22 pm
by original dervish
And they say they were better off under the British....even though the British were in Hargeisa for 80 years and never built a single bridge, to save the lives of people who would be washed away every rainy season.

The secessionists have built their project on hate and lies.
Everything they have now was built by the Siad Barre (aun) regime, hospitals, roads, ports, universities, cement plants etc.
The British didn`t even build toilets for them.

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:32 pm
by Thuganomics
original dervish wrote:And they say they were better off under the British....even though the British were in Hargeisa for 80 years and never built a single bridge, to save the lives of people who would be washed away every rainy season.

The secessionists have built their project on hate and lies.
Everything they have now was built by the Siad Barre (aun) regime, hospitals, roads, ports, universities, cement plants etc.
The British didn`t even build toilets for them.

You keep spewing the same crap about Afwayne building things in HRG and I keep asking you the same Q every time aad waxaa tidhaadid
Why didn't Afwayne build his own city if what you say is true.Because it's not true that's why

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Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:36 pm
by TAATIKO
so kacaanka and british did nothing for North somalia

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:37 pm
by Tanker
Thug


You actually proved that Siyad Barre AUN was a Nationalist if he was a Tribalist he will had used the govenment money to build Gedo, but as a true Nationalist all the money was used on Benadir and to some degree Hargaisa.

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:40 pm
by Thuganomics
Not really.I just proved he didn't build shit in the north

Re: In 1960, somaliland was far behind the south

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:43 pm
by TAATIKO
TAATIKO wrote:The two decades between 1900 and 1920 were a period of colonial consolidation. However, of the colonial powers that had divided the Somalis, only Italy developed a comprehensive administrative plan for its colony. The Italians intended to plant a colony of settlers and commercial entrepreneurs in the region between the Shabeelle and Jubba rivers in southern Somalia. The motivation was threefold: to "relieve population pressure at home," to offer the "civilizing Roman mission" to the Somalis, and to increase Italian prestige through overseas colonization. Initiated by Governor Carletti (1906-10), Italy's colonial program received further impetus by the introduction of fascist ideology and economic planning in the 1920s, particularly during the administration of Governor Cesare Maria de Vecchi de Val Cismon. Large-scale development projects were launched, including a system of plantations on which citrus fruits, primarily bananas, and sugarcane, were grown. Sugarcane fields in Giohar and numerous banana plantations around the town of Jannaale on the Shabeelle River, and at the southern mouth of the Jubba River near Chisimayu, helped transform southern Somalia's economy.

In contrast to the Italian colony, British Somaliland stayed a neglected backwater. Daunted by the diversion of substantial development funds to the suppression of the dervish insurrection and by the "wild" character of the anarchic Somali pastoralists, Britain used its colony as little more than a supplier of meat products to Aden. This policy had a tragic effect on the future unity and stability of independent Somalia. When the two former colonies merged to form the Somali Republic in 1960, the north lagged far behind the south in economic infrastructure and skilled labor. As a result, southerners gradually came to dominate the new state's economic and political life--a hegemony that bred a sense of betrayal and bitterness among northerners.

http://countrystudies.us/somalia/11.htm
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