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I am Dr. Robert Thiel, American physician, currently working at Edna Adan University Hospital. I would like to respond to the allegations made about me and Edna Hospital by Sheikh Adan Sune, published online and in the Waheen newspaper of 16/03/2013.
First of all, I greet the Sheekh, and assure him that I wish only good for himself, his family, his mosque, and Somaliland as a whole.
I understand his concern for the people of Somaliland, especially for women and children. Unfortunately, he has heard and published many things about me that are not true, and I take this chance to respond. I would invite the Sheekh to visit me in my office or at my home if he would like to discuss these matters further. I pray for God's blessing on him and on all of Somaliland. Sheekh Adan is correct about certain things.
I am certainly a Christian, and as part of my Christian faith, I speak, whenever I have the opportunity, about Jesus Christ. This is my duty as a Christian, just as Somalilanders often speak to me about the Islamic religion. I am happy to speak about religion, and hope that we can always do so in a respectful and tolerant manner. We need to respect each other's faith, and I respect true practitioners of Islam.
As to the errors Sheekh Adan has made:
1) While I am a physician, I do not use my position to force my faith on other people. This would be unethical and unkind. I do my best to show my patients the love and compassion of Jesus Christ, and pray for them. Many, many of my patients pray for me as well, and bless me according to the Islamic faith.
2) I help many poor people with free medical care, medicine, and sometimes other kinds of aid. This help is never linked to faith. I never offer to help people if they will convert to Christianity. The great majority of people that I help are Muslims and will always be Muslims. I never attempt to buy conversions with money. This would be unethical and ridiculous. No one can buy the soul of another. I never offer to help people leave this country, though many ask me to do this. The story printed in the newspaper about me trying to buy people with medical care and American visas is pure fiction, completely untrue.




Damnnnn, why is he not arrested or kicked out

Kick him out on what basis? Rumor? Seriously? In that case you might as well cut off his head. SMH

Pastor John Hutuking, did you encourage the man to spread Christianity in your tribal region? Surely you must be proud of his energetic efforts in promoting The Musoveni Gathering Church to your fellow tribesmen.

I believe the imam, he is 100% right. I take his words over gaal words. The imam received sources about youth who left the religion. Spies saw them not going to the mosque on fridays, yet on sundays they go to a secret house.
Could that secret house be a secret church???

He has a right to practice his faith whoever he wish. He also has a right to preach to whoever is willing to listen to him. He needs to stay away from Children unless he has permission from their parents. We are in america and we preach to people of other faiths freely. We cannot deny other people rights that we wish for ourselves. Lets be fair. This world is not ours alone. Gaalada allah ha soo hadeeyo.

Colonel wrote:Pastor John Hutuking, did you encourage the man to spread Christianity in your tribal region? Surely you must be proud of his energetic efforts in promoting The Musoveni Gathering Church to your fellow tribesmen.

He has a right to preach his religion just as we preach our religion in Christian countries. Stop being hypocrties.

The man wants to raise the Christianity statistics in Somaliland, lol.

Colonel wrote:Pastor John Hutuking, did you encourage the man to spread Christianity in your tribal region? Surely you must be proud of his energetic efforts in promoting The Musoveni Gathering Church to your fellow tribesmen.

O Elderly Priest of Christianity,
I received intel that Axmed Madoobe now named Arnold Batulu Mercy was attacked by hippos during baptizing in the wrong river.

Is Batulu Mercy allright?

Hutuking You should worry about the Ugandans and Burundians in your land that is not how Somaliland rolls last time an Ogaden/Darood Christian from Garissa tried to spread
Christianity in our land, he was beaten in the Somaliland border.

Kenyan Pastor Beaten At Somaliland Border
("Compass Direct News," May 8, 2009)

Nairobi, Kenya, – A pastor trying to visit Somalia’s autonomous, self-declared state of Somaliland earlier this year discovered just how hostile the separatist region can be
to Christians.

A convert from Islam, Abdi Welli Ahmed is an East Africa Pentecostal Church pastor from Kenya who in February tried to visit and encourage Christians, an invisibly tiny
minority, in the religiously intolerant region of Somaliland.

Born and raised in Kenya’s northern town of Garissa, Ahmed first traveled to Addis Ababa, the capital of neighboring Ethiopia. When he arrived by car at the border
crossing of Wajaale on Feb. 19 with all legal travel documents, his Bible and other Christian literature landed him in unexpected trouble with Somaliland immigration officials.

“I was beaten up for being in possession of Christian materials,” Ahmed told Compass. “They threatened to kill me if I did not renounce my faith, but I refused to
their face. They were inhuman.”

Ahmed said the chief border official in Wajaale, whom he could identify only by his surname of Jama, took charge of most of the torturing. Ahmed said their threats
were heart-numbing as they struggled to subdue him, with Jama and others saying they had killed two Somali Christians and would do the same to him.

http://wwrn.org/articles/30900/?&place= ... tion=islam

The Ugandans and Burundis see only $, but white doctor who seems to be "reborn christian" already got that. The white doctors reborn christians are dangerous. The imam discovered this threat. The sheikh has sources, we must take his words above gaal words.


As for the Cagdheer missionary guy, surely that was the disciple of Archbishop Colonel

So where the hell does it say his missionary ? Definition of missionary =

A person undertaking a mission and especially a religious mission

.

This guy is just a physician.

HutuKing01 wrote: 1) While I am a physician, I do not use my position to force my faith on other people

HutuKing01 wrote:

Colonel wrote:Pastor John Hutuking, did you encourage the man to spread Christianity in your tribal region? Surely you must be proud of his energetic efforts in promoting The Musoveni Gathering Church to your fellow tribesmen.

O Elderly Priest of Christianity,
I received intel that Axmed Madoobe now named Arnold Batulu Mercy was attacked by hippos during baptizing in the wrong river.

Is Batulu Mercy allright?

You have won this battle, Archbishop Desmond Hutu. Certainly, the election of the new Pope has given you strength and firepower.

Colonel wrote:

HutuKing01 wrote:

Colonel wrote:Pastor John Hutuking, did you encourage the man to spread Christianity in your tribal region? Surely you must be proud of his energetic efforts in promoting The Musoveni Gathering Church to your fellow tribesmen.

O Elderly Priest of Christianity,
I received intel that Axmed Madoobe now named Arnold Batulu Mercy was attacked by hippos during baptizing in the wrong river.

Is Batulu Mercy allright?

You have won this battle, Archbishop Desmond Hutu. Certainly, the election of the new Pope has given you strength and firepower.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!! both of y'all,smhhhhh.

Somaliland is the home of Protestantism in the horn.