Why do we dehumanize our leaders when we disagree?

[The`Republic]

I have never undersood but it seems to be norm accepted political behavior. I have disagreed with Hassan Sheikh on certain issues bu I cannot bring myself to call him anything but President Hassan or the President. It is my way of respecting the office and the right he has in representing it at this time.

Yet others will call him the same when they are happy with him but when they disagree will call him Qoslaaye, Gurguurte, and will even use his last name Calasoow not to recognize his last name but a way to say this name is specific to his tribe and therefore the "other" to me. There is nothing harmless about using only when they disagree---wey ku fogeenayaan. Kind of like how rednecks use Obama's middle name "Hussein" only when they want they want to make it seem like he is not American.

The same goes for the PM and many other Somali leaders.

My question is why can we not disagree with our leaders while respecting the dignity of their offices.

[AgentOfChaos]

We're Somalis, disdain for authority is in our blood.

[original dervish]

Are you for real?
These HAGite malcontents are the progeny of 21 years of moryaanism.
We learned well the "dignity of office", under Abdulqasim.
The only position you can trust HAGites is in the sights of a gun.

[Titanium]

Your topic title should be changed to : "Why do we dehumanize our leaders whose clan we don't belong to".

[AgentOfChaos]

Your topic title should be changed to : "Why do we dehumanize our leaders whose clan we don't belong to".

So you think the only people who disagree with the President do so because they are not of his clan?

[DonCorleone]

Your topic title should be changed to : "Why do we dehumanize our leaders whose clan we don't belong to".

So you think the only people who disagree with the President do so because they are not of his clan?

Case in point jubaland and those protestors in Minnesota lol president supports al Shabaab lol!

[AgentOfChaos]

^wtf

[DonCorleone]

^wtf

You know what I mean

[Titanium]

Your topic title should be changed to : "Why do we dehumanize our leaders whose clan we don't belong to".

So you think the only people who disagree with the President do so because they are not of his clan?

Didn't you remember the day after the "election" in Somalia, people were already condemning the new President even before he was able to step inside Villa Somalia? People were linking him with some advocacy group based in Canada that doesn't even exist claiming he was working for "Hawiye supremacy" in Somalia. His "critics" have labelled him a supporter of Al Shabab.

Let's be real. You think most Somalis give a damn about his policies no matter how amazing they could be? Somalis are not politically mature. I am not only talking about the current President. I am talking about all past presidents. If the president is not part of even their sub clan, a very large chunk of Somalis will not support him or be very enthusiastic about him.

[Transformer]

Abdulahi Yusuf Ahmed has been dehumanized and so has Omar Abdirashid and Abdiwali Gaas yet you've only observed what has been a trend just now with Hassan Sh.

Voltage, surely you would have failed to observe what has been a trend had Shirdoon not been in the picture.

[The`Republic]

I did include them...I actually did remember Cabdiwali being called "Cawar" by some people when they didn't like his positions.

[Tanker]

Your topic title should be changed to : "Why do we dehumanize our leaders whose clan we don't belong to".

So you think the only people who disagree with the President do so because they are not of his clan?

Didn't you remember the day after the "election" in Somalia, people were already condemning the new President even before he was able to step inside Villa Somalia? People were linking him with some advocacy group based in Canada that doesn't even exist claiming he was working for "Hawiye supremacy" in Somalia. His "critics" have labelled him a supporter of Al Shabab.

Let's be real. You think most Somalis give a damn about his policies no matter how amazing they could be? Somalis are not politically mature. I am not only talking about the current President. I am talking about all past presidents. If the president is not part of even their sub clan, a very large chunk of Somalis will not support him or be very enthusiastic about him.

[Titanium]

Tanker, I think presidential candidates should hide their qabiil by law from the people and only reveal their qabiil once they step down from office after serving their terms. This is the only way Somalis can be normal and start acting like normal human beings. But knowing Somalis, the Somali media will probably hound that presidential candidates or future presidents family and demand they know his qabiil or pay money to a family friend anonymously to find out what qabil he belongs too. For Somalis, Qabiil is more important than Harvard education and 30 years of relevant experience in the IMF or World Bank or an American government agency.

[The_Patriot]

I have never undersood but it seems to be norm accepted political behavior. I have disagreed with Hassan Sheikh on certain issues bu I cannot bring myself to call him anything but President Hassan or the President. It is my way of respecting the office and the right he has in representing it at this time.

Yet others will call him the same when they are happy with him but when they disagree will call him Qoslaaye, Gurguurte, and will even use his last name Calasoow not to recognize his last name but a way to say this name is specific to his tribe and therefore the "other" to me. There is nothing harmless about using only when they disagree---wey ku fogeenayaan. Kind of like how rednecks use Obama's middle name "Hussein" only when they want they want to make it seem like he is not American.

The same goes for the PM and many other Somali leaders.

My question is why can we not disagree with our leaders while respecting the dignity of their offices.

The leaders are disrespecting their office.
If MSB was nicknamed Afweyne, while C/ Yussuf yeey who do you think Gurgurte iyo Shitdon are?

[Tanker]

I totally agree

It was with pain over the jalinimo of our people that forced our army leaders to make a coup 21 october 1969, only for the somalis to create armed tribal rebels aganist their own nationhood 10 years later.


Wallahi Somalis need a hardcore military dictore who can force nationalism inside us by gunpoint and rule us, a multi-tribal military terror regime, who kills its oppostion thats the only way to rule somalis and make us equal with the modern nations.