When did Somalis lose their backbone ?

[STARKAST]

Somalis today can't even secure their own capital.
We are at the mercy of EU,USA and Turkish aid.
Those in the Diaspora are waiting for welfare checks.

All while Somalis are enduring famines etc etc


So the question is when did we lose our backbones - or are we just simply witnessing a failed generation. - And is times changing with us observing the re-birth of a nation...

Even the dictator got it : Note the begging bit expressed !

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Everything Somalia was died with Barre. Simple truth. We can thank everyone who was 'liberating' us. Lmfao. They sure did liberate us.

[Xiis1928]

Hawiye and their animal characteristics destroyed Somalia. They can't get along with themselves and they can't get along with others. They removed Afwayne's Daroodism regime from Xamar and then they started fighting themselves and destroying their own land. The Italians assimilated them during the colonial period, which resulted them losing their Somali culture.

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Hawiye and their animal characteristics destroyed Somalia. They can't get along with themselves and they can't get along with others. They removed Afwayne's Daroodism regime from Xamar and then they started fighting themselves and destroying their own land. The Italians assimilated them during the colonial period, which resulted them losing their Somali culture.

It had nothing to do with Hawiye you nut job, it only had something to do with people like you who are sick and twisted clannists that run around with these labels and violence.

[Xiis1928]

You're the clown who is embarrass of his Hawiye heritage. Go to hell you self hating negro. I'm happy we don't share any land with your people.

[CushiticReflections]

I think we've done things for thousands of years our own way but after being colonized by Europeans, we've struggled to find our way. We seemed to be more independent, in my opinion, in the hopeful years following independence. But forcing a nation that has always had something like a confederacy for a majority of its history to fit the mould of a nation-state (as was defined by the Europeans/Westerners following events unique to the Europeans) is ignorant and shows the deeply rooted Eurocentric mindset that prevails when it comes to nations of any continent and international affairs. Nations should have the right, as part of their sovereignty, to decide what form their government(s) will take. We shouldn't have to bow down to the results of European history/politics and try to live up to their standards of how a country should be run.

Ranted a little there but it is astounding how Eurocentric discussions on nations are, and most people don't seem to acknowledge this.

Everything Somalia was died with Barre. Simple truth. We can thank everyone who was 'liberating' us. Lmfao. They sure did liberate us.

I agree.

[DonCorleone]

Hawiye and their animal characteristics destroyed Somalia. They can't get along with themselves and they can't get along with others. They removed Afwayne's Daroodism regime from Xamar and then they started fighting themselves and destroying their own land. The Italians assimilated them during the colonial period, which resulted them losing their Somali culture.

I didn't know Siad Barre and Abdhullahi Yusuf was Hawiye

I didn't know the gov up to 1991 was Hawiye run either

I didn't know hawiye was the biggest helpers to the Italians and the british too

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You're the clown who is embarrass of his Hawiye heritage. Go to hell you self hating negro. I'm happy we don't share any land with your people.

Self-hating negro? And are you Banu hashim? Wow, please get a mirror and look at how black your lips are just like 80% of your other Isaaq banu hashim relatives. I'd also love to know how I'm embarrassed of my 'Hawiye heritage'.

And you're happy you don't share land with my people? Lmfao I live in a penthouse in Knightsbride and you, probably as a welfare kid is talking about sharing land with me? You wouldn't even get past the finger print entrance let alone get within a metre of me.

[CushiticReflections]

Hawiye and their animal characteristics destroyed Somalia. They can't get along with themselves and they can't get along with others. They removed Afwayne's Daroodism regime from Xamar and then they started fighting themselves and destroying their own land. The Italians assimilated them during the colonial period, which resulted them losing their Somali culture.

I didn't know Siad Barre and Abdhullahi Yusuf was Hawiye

I didn't know the gov up to 1991 was Hawiye run either

I didn't know hawiye was the biggest helpers to the Italians and the british too

Abdullahi Yusuf is Darod (MJ to be specific). Siad Barre was Darod too, specifically Marehan. I don't think that the Hawiyes had much to do with the British... from the books that I've read written by the British around colonial times, they mostly had good relationships with individuals that came from Dir (Isaaq, Issa, etc).