Somalia and Somaliland talks and the tribes taking part

[Khalid Ali]

Somaliland side

1President Axmed Maxammad Maxamuud Siilaanyo isaaq habarjeclo

2Wasiirka arimaha debedaMaxammad cabdilahi cumar Isaaq habr awal

3Wasiirka guryenta iyo qoiska , Mohamud Ahmed Barre Garad Gadabuursi Makahil

4Wasiirka Cadaalada Xuseen A.Caydiid isaaq arab

5Wasiirka Madaxtooyada xirsi xaaji cali isaaq habrjeclo

6Gudoomiyaha Xisbiga ucid Sultan Faysal C.Waraabe isaaq garxajis

7-Gudoomiye kuxigeenka barlamaanka Baashe maxammad farax, Darod dhulbahante


On Somalia side

1- President Xasan sheikh Maxamuuud hawiye abgaal.

2- wasiirka arrimaha gudaha C/kariin Xuseen Guuleed Hawiye sacad

3- wasiiru dowlaha madaxtooyada Faarax C/qaadir Hawiye sheikhaal

4 Xildhibaan Dr. kalidi oo u dhashay Digil iyo mirifle.

5 Xildhibaan Abdikarin oo u dhashay beesha Cayr (Hawiye)

6 Xildhibaan Maxmuud Cayri oo u dhashay beesha daarood majeerteen

7 Cabdilaahi Sheekh Ismaaciil Xubin Baarlamaan Dir gaadsan

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

6 saaqs and one kastuumo

Lets see where this failed talk will lead to.

[Titanium]

The Somaliland list wasn't a surprise but what is a surprise is the Somalia list.

[Ron]

6 saaqs and one kastuumo

Lets see where this failed talk will lead to.

...and one Samaroon

3Wasiirka guryenta iyo qoiska , Mohamud Ahmed Barre Garad Gadabuursi Makahil

only one Daarod out of seven from the 'Dam-Jadiid' side is worse than

[MarsinQorahay]

Diida hawiye

[The_Patriot]

It will end in failure there is no Ogaden in it.

[FarIyoAlif]

Smart play by SL they refused to enter a dialogue with Somalia when Sheikh Sharif had a warsangeli and a dhulbahante in their team. Now they have one in their team and Damujadiid failed to see they were being played politically. Dabadhilif Baashe Maxamed doesn't even represent his subclan let alone dhulbahante as a whole. Let's hope Damujadiid are aware of that..

[BigBreak]

all the tribes in s/land support its independence no doubt across its british drawn borders and if a clean vote across the former protectorate was held i would with confidence over 80% of people regardless of tribe will vote independence
the vote must be one man one vote not one clan one vote

[metamorphosis]

lol what is with the somalia list? Is this a meeting between hawiye and isaq or a meeting between somalia and somaliland? Sland despite being the smaller entity shows more diversity than "somalia" which has one tribe representing?

It would be very unwise for somaliland to join somalia especially when the president is working day and night to revive the 1991 eras.

I hope eydoors arent guillable as to believe they are better off joining damu jadiid.

[Siciid85]

Did people really expect a Absame individual to be in the list? They are not really Somalis but a hybrid of Oromo and Nuer.

[Khalid Ali]

Guys lets keep the tread clean of cay and aflagaado

Far iyo alif sh sharif had no warsangali on his side he had a dhulbahante minister

Meta saaxib u know me i have no probs with absame i even like them if you wanne adress us call us iidoor isaaq snm what every u like

Siciid adiguna ino dedji inadeer

I know it was a reaction of meta said but lets not turn the topic into cay


The two president are expected to arrive beritoole morning

[Osob101]

I can pretty much tell you your list of the Somalia delegation is not full.

[GIJaamac]

@ one daarood on somalia's side.
There are no real talks if HG wouldn't be in it. I'm glad the president took the right choice.

[original dervish]

Hassan Sheikh will offer the iidoor to keep s/l but within somalia.
The iidoor will refuse this outright, however, they will negotiate for the next best outcome privately.

The talks will be important for what is kept private.
If s/l stick to their position, the talks will last 2 mins.

S/l to stay within the union will want half of everything, ministers, aid, budget etc.
I doubt very much the Hawiye will agree to that, as the south contains upwards of 70% of population and known resources.

In the short term(1-3 years), there will be no change to the staus quo, while in the long run (3-5 years), I expect movement on the part of s/l.

[Titanium]

Hassan Sheikh will offer the iidoor to keep s/l but within somalia.
The iidoor will refuse this outright, however, they will negotiate for the next best outcome privately.

The talks will be important for what is kept private.
If s/l stick to their position, the talks will last 2 mins.

S/l to stay within the union will want half of everything, ministers, aid, budget etc.
I doubt very much the Hawiye will agree to that, as the south contains upwards of 70% of population and known resources.

In the short term(1-3 years), there will be no change to the staus quo, while in the long run (3-5 years), I expect movement on the part of s/l.

There is only a 0.001% chance that Somaliland agrees to stay with Somalia. They are gone.

I see either only three things possibly happening. Don't expect Somaliland to be at the same level as any of the federal states

A) Somaliland agrees to stay with Somalia but demand 50% share in everything as they are "British Somaliland", the other half of the Somali Republic. 50% of the MP's, 50% of the ministries, either President or PM, 50% of national government money. 50% of everything.

B) Somaliland agrees to a confederacy. Two "countries" under one country. Two systems. They act as their own country, operate like one, have control of everything within its borders except for some thing such as foreign affairs where Somaliland and Somalia have one united voice in the international arena.

C) Somaliland rejects Somalia and maintains the status quo and continues striving for recognition.

99.99% the last option will be the outcome because A) would be denied by many in Somalia and B) would make Somalilanders think what good comes out of a confederacy for them.