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where do somalis stand in the Sunni/Shia conflicts

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the middle east is witnessing a time of unparalleled upheaval with dangerous sectarian overtones. the key battle grounds are Lebanon, Iraq and Syria with the potential that these conflicts are going to spread to Jordan, Kuwait, Saudis and Bahrain. what is the position of the Somali street. do Somalis support fellow Sunnis in Syria because it the right thing to do or because Bashar Al-Assad is Alawi. do we support the people in Bahrain who happen to be Shia in their struggle to overthrown their hereditary regime or do we side with the gulf Sunni monarch. do Somalis feel like fuck the middle east, this is an Arab, Persian or Turkic problem so long as they keep it in Sham and the Persian Gulf why should we care. however keep in mind that Yemen is 4 hours away and divide between Yazidis and Sunnis so what ever happen we won't go unscathed.
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That is like a man pouring water at a neighbour`s house while his is burning.
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Tuushi wrote:That is like a man pouring water at a neighbour`s house while his is burning.
nice example :up:
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Tuushi wrote:That is like a man pouring water at a neighbour`s house while his is burning.
nice example :up:

the middle east will affect us, whether we like it or not Somalis depend on Arab market. Yemen refugees could be a problem for us. arab, turks and Persian and vying for influence in somalia so conflicts could have negative repercussion for all of us.
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Personally i support the jihad going on in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon against the REAL HIDDEN ENEMIES OF ISLAM. As for Bahrain, well i believe the rafidha there are more loyal to heretic Ayatushaytaan Khamenei Al-Rafidhi(May Allah curse him) instead of the Bahraini king.
So the danger is that Iranian safavids are using bahraini rafidha to have influence there and to expand their regional importance dreaming of old glory(Persian Empire). The only way to counter this threat is if Bahrain gives citizenship to millions of sunni muslims from arab countries and as well other non-arab muslim countries so that the rafidha community becomes a despised minority.


Most of Somalis support their brethren in religion, ilaa qaliilan except for qabuurogaleen who feels like they are closer to rafidha in graveworship instead of the truthful followers of Quran, Sunnah and Ahlubayt.
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do Somalis feel like fuck the middle east, this is an Arab, Persian or Turkic problem
This is my stand. Besides SHias are not an enemy in my book. We real enemies that the Somali people should be worried. And it is who everyone blames for all the problems in the country.
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HutuKing01 wrote:Personally i support the jihad going on in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon against the REAL HIDDEN ENEMIES OF ISLAM. As for Bahrain, well i believe the rafidha there are more loyal to heretic Ayatushaytaan Khamenei Al-Rafidhi(May Allah curse him) instead of the Bahraini king.
What happen in Syria,Iraq and lebenon is fitna and not jihad. the middle eastern arabs divert their energy from isreal to an internal blood bath. I support the syrians but not what happening in Iraq, extremist element are attacking civilians. killing and maiming innocent people but al-maliks regime is not any better. before long he will have a syrians sytle insurgency in Ambar province. in.Lebanon the Shia are the strongest military faction, the Christians and Sunni are to divides so hezbollah is giving free reign.
HutuKing01 wrote: So the danger is that Iranian safavids are using bahraini rafidha to have influence there and to expand their regional importance dreaming of old glory(Persian Empire). The only way to counter this threat is if Bahrain gives citizenship to millions of sunni muslims from arab countries and as well other non-arab muslim countries so that the rafidha community becomes a despised minority.


Most of Somalis support their brethren in religion, ilaa qaliilan except for qabuurogaleen who feels like they are closer to rafidha in graveworship instead of the truthful followers of Quran, Sunnah and Ahlubayt.
The Persians are the regional power, the us saw to that when they destroyed iran rival Iraq. Few years ago the media bezz word was The Shia Crescent now it the Sunni Resurgence, these aren't catchy headlines but deliberate foreign policy. The truth is that Arab state can stop the Safavid(the Iranians). Irans only equal rival is turkey but turkey remains aloof it hand tied by its membership in NATO. it beyond laughable that gulf Arabs think that they contain iran because they have oil and they are USA bitches in the regions. I grieve for the syrians, their biggest benefactors are the biggest munaafiiq in the Muslim world.

hutuKing what you suggesting in Bahrians is nothing short of Gencide, Bahrian had been Shia long than even Iran, no one should be evict from their homeland because of grande politics beside time and demographic are against the gulf Arabs. think about it in the 70s the Shia were 40% in Iraq and less then 20% in lebenon now their 65% in Iraq and the majority in Baghdad a once glories Sunni stronghold and 40% in lebenon while the sunni spent the 70-90 smoking hooka and going to discos/night clubs the Shia county bumbkins were breeding why woke 21 century to find themselves minorities .
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For what is worth, here is my take on the issue.

I say it would be prudent on our part to not hastily commit ourselves in support for or against either side, at least, not at this early in the game. What we should do, instead, is wait until such a time that we have clearer picture of the outcome of this brewing conflict, and then we, of course, astutely align ourselves with whoever the fortunes of war seems to be favoring, i.e, the likely winner.
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barbarossa wrote:For what is worth, here is my take on the issue.

I say it would be prudent on our part to not hastily commit ourselves in support for or against either side, at least, not at this early in the game. What we should do, instead, is wait until such a time that we have clearer picture of the outcome of this brewing conflict, and then we, of course, astutely align ourselves with whoever the fortunes of war seems to be favoring, i.e, the likely winner.
The pragmatic approach is always he best one, hedge out bets and maintain good diplomatic relationships with all the factions and wait it out.

questions: the west and isreal play middle eastern against each other to prevent the emergence of one country gaining regional hegemony. are we any different, I would fear a nuclear Iran with ballistic missile able to strike xamar just as I would fear Saudi become the dominant middle eastern power. we might be Muslim but I prefer the middle east weak and preoccupied because it gives us room to maneuver rather than one coming on top.
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Tuushi wrote:That is like a man pouring water at a neighbour`s house while his is burning.
There's a Somali proverb for this: Mudul gubtey mudul gubayano ma ka naxo :lol:

Seriously though, if we ever get a strong and unified (federal) government they should stay the f'ck out of international politics.
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you are a very ignorant person. the shia rawafidh are the number enemy of sunni muslims which includes somalis. these animals have been daily massacring muslims in iraq, they heavily support the Maliki admin which just few days ago went to kurdistan and killed many people. Hezbollah funded by Iran daily harrass sunnis and have even sent thousands of soldiers to Syria to aide the dog Basshar in his genocide against Sunni muslims. They also daily curse the sahaba and the most prominent wife or rasuulullah wal ciyaadu billah. These people are one of my worst enemies and by Allah whoever insults those sahaba will be my enemy till the day of judgement. I consider their scholars to be in clear kufr and paganism and their laymen the same.

i hope in the future the somali government makes me ambassador to arab league I will show how I am against shia and the arabs will love me.
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somalis are shafi sunnis so they side with their brothers.
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i don't care tbh..... sooner they destroy each other the better :whew:
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21CenturyAmir wrote:the middle east is witnessing a time of unparalleled upheaval with dangerous sectarian overtones. the key battle grounds are Lebanon, Iraq and Syria with the potential that these conflicts are going to spread to Jordan, Kuwait, Saudis and Bahrain. what is the position of the Somali street. do Somalis support fellow Sunnis in Syria because it the right thing to do or because Bashar Al-Assad is Alawi. do we support the people in Bahrain who happen to be Shia in their struggle to overthrown their hereditary regime or do we side with the gulf Sunni monarch. do Somalis feel like fuck the middle east, this is an Arab, Persian or Turkic problem so long as they keep it in Sham and the Persian Gulf why should we care. however keep in mind that Yemen is 4 hours away and divide between Yazidis and Sunnis so what ever happen we won't go unscathed.
At least 95% of Somalis are Sunnis, so they naturally support Sunnis in Syria. How can they even remotely support the Shia whom they consider heretics?
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grandpakhalif wrote:you are a very ignorant person. the shia rawafidh are the number enemy of sunni muslims which includes somalis. these animals have been daily massacring muslims in iraq, they heavily support the Maliki admin which just few days ago went to kurdistan and killed many people. Hezbollah funded by Iran daily harrass sunnis and have even sent thousands of soldiers to Syria to aide the dog Basshar in his genocide against Sunni muslims. They also daily curse the sahaba and the most prominent wife or rasuulullah wal ciyaadu billah. These people are one of my worst enemies and by Allah whoever insults those sahaba will be my enemy till the day of judgement. I consider their scholars to be in clear kufr and paganism and their laymen the same.

i hope in the future the somali government makes me ambassador to arab league I will show how I am against shia and the arabs will love me.
how are Shia the number one enemy of Sunni Muslim, are they committing Genocide against Sunni in Iraq and Syria. Al-Maliki politically suppresses Sunni, there is no interahamwe (death squads) going from house to house killing Sunnis. also there are extremist Sunni doing suicide bombing every other week no where is safe in Iraq not in mosques or even in markets place. you commensurate with Sunni suffering as you should but you act like there are not innocent Shia. also there is established tradition in Sunni Madhabs that only Shia scholars are in error the laymen are blameless.

the Shia do curse the Sahaba and Aisha mother of the believers but do their curse take away the extolled position of the Sahaba in the eyes of Sunni, can Curse of Human being some how lessens individual who are blessed by allah and are promise Janna.

lastly,"i hope in the future the somali government makes me ambassador to arab league I will show how I am against shia and the arabs will love me" WTF :down: :down: :down:
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