My view on this HUGE myth ( those who claim to be arabs)

[Somali-Transporter]

Horta kow, waa ceeb!!


The somali elders are habitul liars! thats why all this propoganda started in the beginning! until this day!

have you ever spoken to a somali elder that you knew he was lying!! somali people are great in lying wallahi! trust me!

So how can you tell someone the truth! so you have to give them some proves...

do not go and spread some lies?? unless you know it with 100%

[Somali-Transporter]

Ask a scholar like me! i will inform you the truth! about your forefathers!

First name your Qabiil! i will help you out...

[grandpakhalif]

your hutu ur jealous u dont got arab ancestor like us. ur ancestor probably congo.

[xaliye123]

Waar ma dhibaata kaa haysata qabilkaaga 24ka saac qabil umbaad ka hadlaysaa waxba ma shegayside.

[Somali-Transporter]

[quote="grandpakhalif"]your hutu ur jealous u dont got arab ancestor like us. ur ancestor probably congo.[/quote]

If i am Congo you are from Zambia!! its all claims! its only ciyaal talk!!

I can call you names 2 remember!! I have been to Somaliland, and puntland! i have seen the people WHO live there!! so do not act ciyaal with me sxiib.. we know each other!!

So don't go mental on!!

come lets talk facts..

[Titanium]

Some Somalis claim Arab ancestry because they are ashamed of descending from warring nomads who fought over water wells and empty desert land for their goats to roam in. This is basically the history of the Somali people. Some claim ancestry to feel close to the Prophet and Islam (forgetting that a Chinese person who is fully committed to the faith is 100x times closer than those within the same Quraysh clan and extended family of the Prophet who rejected him and the religion).

Let's say Somalis had an empire. Not necessarily as large as the British Empire or the Qing Dynasty but let's say something smaller that covered all of East Africa and we ruled the Oromos, the Afar, the Tigreys, the Amharas, the Massai and the rest of them. Let's say Somalia was home to second or third-rate ancient civilization.

Do you think Somalis would be claiming Arab ancestry? The simple answer is: No.

[Somali-Transporter]

Okay let me tell your where all this claims came from!!

it were only propoganda to rule it with other people! let me give you and example!!

Sudan, moracco, and many other muslim countries! this propoganda began after islam with Umayyid being from Quresh and abbaised as well..

Some bantu even ruled 300 years in the name of the tribe of Nabiullah Muhammeds tribe! Quresh!! in sudan

even the king of Marocco are claiming to be from the prophet Muhammed! and he is not even semetic in his DNA.. you see claiming the prophet, gives you power..

Wallahi sxiib I am saving somalis from shame!! nothing else

[misterioso]

this propoganda began after islam with Umayyid being from Quresh and abbaised as well..

The Ummayads and Abbasids were Quresh?

[ElfRuler]

If your great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents aren't Arab, for the love of God do not claim to have Arab blood.

Going back 800 years to claim Arab ancestry is preposterous.

[misterioso]

Going back 800 years to claim Arab ancestry is preposterous.

People are free to claim whoever they want.

[ElfRuler]

If your great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents aren't Arab, for the love of God do not claim to have Arab blood.

Going back 800 years to claim Arab ancestry is preposterous.

Don't be childish, and stop following me.

So commenting on a thread you commented on is considered following? This nigga

[Somali-Transporter]

[quote="ElfRuler"]If your great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents aren't Arab, for the love of God do not claim to have Arab blood.

Going back 800 years to claim Arab ancestry is preposterous.[/quote]

Wallahi sxb its a serious case!! and insha-allah!! i hope that we can debate it!!

We are superior to arabs anyways...

[ElfRuler]

Going back 800 years to claim Arab ancestry is preposterous.

People are free to claim whoever they want.

Nop, faking ancestry is prohibited in Islam. If they do not know, it's best if they remained quiet.

Whosoever claimed parentage/ancestry which is not really his knowingly; paradise is forbidden for such a person -Al-Bukhari

Do not deny your parentage. Whosoever distances himself from his real ancestry, because it is kufr -Al-Bukhari

[ElfRuler]

If your great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents aren't Arab, for the love of God do not claim to have Arab blood.

Going back 800 years to claim Arab ancestry is preposterous.

Wallahi sxb its a serious case!! and insha-allah!! i hope that we can debate it!!

We are superior to arabs anyways...

It's a serious case, I just don't agree with you when you say we are superior then Arabs.

[saacJabshee]

Thank you for touching on this subject. I asked an elder who was extremely sure that a guy called al jaberti gave birth to the darood clan. he said al jaberti had 4 wives and had like 10 boys. I think (could be wrong) darood is the biggest tribe by number. so i asked how one arab man can have more children then everyone that lived in his time? How is it that his children had more children then any other man in their time. okay supposed he had 10 children this jaberti guy. surely some of those 10 would die before reaching 10, surely some would be be girls, surely some die at birth i mean we used to die of easily preventable diseases those days. and some of those 10 children would be women and women dont carry the tribe on. so all in all he would have at least 3 boys who would carry on his tribe and name.

so how can this man come to a region of x amount of thousand people who were marrying one another and also children of their own only to end up having more decendents then every other men that lived in his time? this sounds bullcrap. i think somalida just want that honor of being closed to the prophet but this is not the way forward. the old man didnt like me questioning him and i clicked on and stop the interrogation. Wallahi i hope this theory is a lie like big bang theory and how we came from monkeys.