iraq can be example for somalia

[sahal80]

Iraq is a federal country since 2005

The president is kurdish but has no authorities
Vice president is an arab sunni
The pm is an arab/shia and he is the true ruler
FM is kurdish

But I have exceptions on the power sharing

I would like the somali political system to be like the french system, therefore, the president should have athourities since its him who appoints the pm but his authorities are more related with defense, forieng policy and national issues
The pm should have his own government programme and the home policy.

Also the contested regions should have more govt authority and stay under its protection

Now Back to the iraqi federalism not to their political power sharing

America has made some arrangements that empowers the kurds during its war againist baghdad, in this era, the kurds were able to have their autonomous region followed by the federal region of kurdistan but the american interests were transitory and lasted only during their presence in iraq.

Nowadays the kurds have some fear about the return of the authoritarian arab leadership as bahgdad gets stronger.

Its natural fear but nothing like that will happen as the country has a strong federal constitution since 95, what they fear from is the pm getting authoritative and he has close relationship with iran and syria

The kurdish leadership have accepted the federalism however the people are not content with it, they would like to be an independent country but this choice is unexceptable for turkey, iran and syria wich have a kurdish populations and the west respects this.

Kurdistan has more oil than the other regions but since the kurds constitute 17÷ of the population they get their oil share 17÷

We can take this experience from iraq and do some census in every region so they can get their share of national resources based on their population size.

Some are ignoring the fact that they are not bigger than bay&bakool.

Generally, the iraqi leaders are harmonious and their system is workable

Kurdistan manages itself, there are a lot of foriegn oil companies also a new pipeline from kurdistan to turkey will start within months.

[BigBreak]

iraq is failing and crumbling as we speak, hopefully they wont be diagnosed with mooryanism like the zoomalians

[sahal80]

iraq is failing and crumbling as we speak, hopefully they wont be diagnosed with mooryanism like the zoomalians

Excuse me this is for the federalist somalis, us the federal somalia.

[Individual]

iraq is failing and crumbling as we speak, hopefully they wont be diagnosed with mooryanism like the zoomalians

Excuse me this is for the federalist somalis, us the federal somalia.

Let him sahal, we all know they are federalist somalis at heart!

[BigBreak]

^ u dirty mooryan beg, i am an ethnic somali but a somalilander citizen, why would any sane person in somaliland want to associate themselves with gorillas in zoomalia who dont even wipe their arse after doing a shit looool

i wouldnt want zoomalia to be colonized by mighty somaliland let alone being in one country - the mooryaan smell must be avoided at all costs

[Hodan94]

Do you mean northern iraq?

[sahal80]

^ u dirty mooryan beg, i am an ethnic somali but a somalilander citizen, why would any sane person in somaliland want to associate themselves with gorillas in zoomalia who dont even wipe their arse after doing a shit looool

i wouldnt want zoomalia to be colonized by mighty somaliland let alone being in one country - the mooryaan smell must be avoided at all costs

Listen you can have your opinion on the topic even a cadaan person can have his opinion on this topic but it has to be for the sake of the topic not for insults...

[sahal80]

Do you mean northern iraq?

Iraq, the country.

[Hodan94]

Do you mean northern iraq?

Iraq, the country.

Yeah there's iraq anđ northern iraq. Northern iraq is peacfull anđ has a functional government with a large population of kurds.. I believe they arë secessionist. And are wanting a greater Kurdistan

[BigBreak]

iraq should have a shia arab president and a sunni prime minister or vice versa, both pres and pm should be balanced like in france
the kurds should hold both the vice presidency and chief of defence staff (head of whole military)
christian arab should hold speakership of single chamber parliament
turkmen should hold deputy pm post

welcome to the lebanon-ization of iraq folks (reference of lebanon's national pact)

[Khalid Ali]

Somalia is to complicated to compare it to iraq, so you want to saacid faraxs what does that create really if you have a vice president who is powerless and president who is powerless. But a PM who controls it the Shia are the majority in iraq and they are leading it back in the day the sunis. and Kurdistan has autonomy . But kurdistan has also allot of oil and allot of leverage on Maliki.

[sahal80]

Do you mean northern iraq?

Iraq, the country.

Yeah there's iraq anđ northern iraq. Northern iraq is peacfull anđ has a functional government with a large population of kurds.. I believe they arë secessionist. And are wanting a greater Kurdistan

Iraq is one country, have one sport national team, one defense policy, one foreing policy....

They are not secessionists, their leadership have accepted the federalism. as a people, they like to be an independent but not to unite with other kurdish regions because they are rich. Kurdish turkey, iran, syria are not welcomed in kurdistan iraq.

All iraq is great but the central and the south aka arabland have security problems not a war problems and there is no foreing troops. That is great.

[Hodan94]

ok thanks for the info. Sahal80.

[BigBreak]

iraq is divided into governorates and three of these governorates form the iraqi kurdistan region
i believe iraqi kurdistan alone should have strong autonomy from baghdad, its three governorates' authorities should be appointed and accountable to the iraqi kurdistan govt while the authorities of the other iraqi governorates should be appointed by and acountable to the central govt in baghdad

in other words, iraq becomes a unitary federacy like denmark (greenland) or an assymetric federation
in iraqi kurdistan = three levels of govt: governorate, regional and central
rest of iraq = two levels of govt: governorate and central

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federacy#A ... ederations

[sahal80]

Somalia is to complicated to compare it to iraq, so you want to saacid faraxs what does that create really if you have a vice president who is powerless and president who is powerless. But a PM who controls it the Shia are the majority in iraq and they are leading it back in the day the sunis. and Kurdistan has autonomy . But kurdistan has also allot of oil and allot of leverage on Maliki.

Yeah,and more than that kurdistan is becoming democratic as america rejected its regional president to have a third term and backed the people, he is going after two months.

I'm sugessting the two top clans to share power based on the french system and hassan sheekh and saacid divide the authorities between them plus considering puntland like kurdistan, bay&bakool the speaker and other roles.

Contested regions should have more govt authority.