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Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:20 am
by Talo alle udaa
The SFG after attempting to fail to impose it's will against the current admin of Kismaayo, has started to show signs it's preparing to work with A/madoobe's administration.

A representative from Blackie's administration is currently in M-town to lay the groundwork for future negotiations. There has already been an initial meeting in Addis between the two sides that were unfruitful. However, the recent events in war plaqued city has forced Culusow to tone down the rhetoric coming from his end, as well as the endless obsession his admin was showing previously.

For a second time, Blackie has delayed naming his entire cabinet due to the on-going negotiations, he hopes to use some leverage with the vacant positions to come to some kind of terms with Xamar, in return for full recognition & other things.

It's not clear what length Blackie's administration will go to try to work with Culusow, even while Culusow's govt. continues to arm tribal militia to topple the current Kismaayo administration.

Today's meeting to extend time given for Blackie to complete his cabinet.

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Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:29 am
by Madman23
SFG army with barre hiiraale troops.. are around kismayo like a circle.. so madoobe to survive he have to fight for kismayo in my opinion..

SFG col. cabaas, barre hiiraale and other soldiers will enter the city with madoobe! not funny for him..

Kenya is about to get replaced! SFG will say we are neutral, but in reality they want madoobe out...

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:35 am
by GIJaamac
I will literally go to jihad against against SFG if they ever accept Blackie's admin. Although it will never happen as Ras Kibakis are traitors in the eyes of somali people and govt. Keep dreaming jebertis. :cry:

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:42 am
by Talo alle udaa
You can do as u wish Xiinow, but what i stated above is true. Culusow is negotiating with Blackie for a way out.

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:49 am
by Madman23
Talo alle udaa wrote:You can do as u wish Xiinow, but what i stated above is true. Culusow is negotiating with Blackie for a way out.
If you Guys want jubba, you have to take it with force! RK's and madoobe lost the trust of the people..

I can only see war, being the way out! already kenya lost politically! they are removed from the port and airport!

Kukri will control both the port and airport!

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:49 am
by Khalid Ali
I believe Culusow will negotiate but it will be from a point that he wants to Delegitimize Axmed madoobes presidency . it will be suicidal for Culusow to Support Madoobes presidency , whit not getting something in return , If culusow does that he will cause enormous friction with in the Hawiye tribe. He will lose allot of support. But culusow wants to downgrade madoobe's admin , untill he finds away to get rid of the Kenyans. If culuosw compromises and gives into the damands of madoobe, and madoobe's jubbaland is recognized as a federal state by the SFG. culusow will also lose the support of the Marehaan clan who before the clash in kismayo were a bit divided but now are all against the Kenyan allied Jubbaland. If culusow Honers madoobe's Presidency it will be suicidal for him. But we shall see what comes out of the negotiations.

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:56 am
by GIJaamac
Talo alle udaa wrote:You can do as u wish Xiinow, but what i stated above is true. Culusow is negotiating with Blackie for a way out.
They can talk all they want but, I dont think the president will ever accept it, because all the Dirs D&Ms and Hawiyes who are majority in the two jubbas will be against the govt and that means another bloody civil war in those two regions. I don´t think the president will appease a weak minority who are relying on KDF over a strong majority. It´s against common sense.

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:59 am
by Madman23
khalid ali wrote:I believe Culusow will negotiate but it will be from a point that he wants to Delegitimize Axmed madoobes presidency . it will be suicidal for Culusow to Support Madoobes presidency , whit not getting something in return , If culusow does that he will cause enormous friction with in the Hawiye tribe. He will lose allot of support. But culusow wants to downgrade madoobe's admin , untill he finds away to get rid of the Kenyans. If culuosw compromises and gives into the damands of madoobe, and madoobe's jubbaland is recognized as a federal state by the SFG. culusow will also lose the support of the Marehaan clan who before the clash in kismayo were a bit divided but now are all against the Kenyan allied Jubbaland. If culusow Honers madoobe's Presidency it will be suicidal for him. But we shall see what comes out of the negotiations.

Khalid trust me, Culusow will not do that! because it will be politically suicide for him as you said..

SFG army with col. cabaas are around kismayo, and close to kismayo! with the Intentions to attack! they worked so hard on removing Kenya! which they did!

So Culusow have to make snake move, act he is neutral, but attack from the behind..

But no hell way! is madoobe welcome by the people..

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:01 am
by Khalid Ali
^^ What is your former nick?

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:25 pm
by BlackRain
khalid ali wrote:I believe Culusow will negotiate but it will be from a point that he wants to Delegitimize Axmed madoobes presidency . it will be suicidal for Culusow to Support Madoobes presidency , whit not getting something in return , If culusow does that he will cause enormous friction with in the Hawiye tribe. He will lose allot of support. But culusow wants to downgrade madoobe's admin , untill he finds away to get rid of the Kenyans. If culuosw compromises and gives into the damands of madoobe, and madoobe's jubbaland is recognized as a federal state by the SFG. culusow will also lose the support of the Marehaan clan who before the clash in kismayo were a bit divided but now are all against the Kenyan allied Jubbaland. If culusow Honers madoobe's Presidency it will be suicidal for him. But we shall see what comes out of the negotiations.
Culosow is at crossroads here. His options are limited to be honest. Either recognize Madoobe as legitimate leader in Jubbaland and face the wrath of his Hawiye clan or ask the kenyans out and face the wrath of the Kenyans. We all know Kenyans won't go away unless Culosow himself raise the issue to the international community and even that it won't be easy. He also tried arming small Hawiye clans and some Marehans and that didn't work either. So Culosow now is really in between rock and hard place.

The best move for him now is to not officially recolonize Jubbaland and wait for the status que to change in the near feature

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:56 pm
by MaliPirate
Mark my words: Never trust a person who is not Somalian Citizen period. They are from another country and well known backstabbers. Somaliland folks are more somali than a guy from Ethiopia.
:lost:

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:13 pm
by FarhanYare
who is this madman character? original dervish?

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:26 pm
by sahal80
Talks between the govt and raaskambooni are still on to reach understanding like the spokesperson yariisow confirmed it a week ago but the game has changed.

Raaskambooni controls now the whole kismayo and the govt is planning to regain it by deploying a multi-amisom in there and then implement its police army forces in there...

So its doesn't seem that raaskambooni to be able to hold its military gains in the long run without a good policy being along side with these gains.

I don't think the govt is ready to change its interim administration position, moreover, these multi-amisom forces could change the game and conditions than the way it was before under kenya.

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:33 pm
by grandpakhalif
The Ethiopian usurper of Jubbaland will be quickly humiliated in the coming days, Culusoow knows to be patient.

Re: Culusow cools down rhetoric against Jubalaand

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:03 pm
by Advo
xiinow wrote:
Talo alle udaa wrote:You can do as u wish Xiinow, but what i stated above is true. Culusow is negotiating with Blackie for a way out.
They can talk all they want but, I dont think the president will ever accept it, because all the Dirs D&Ms and Hawiyes who are majority in the two jubbas will be against the govt and that means another bloody civil war in those two regions. I don´t think the president will appease a weak minority who are relying on KDF over a strong majority. It´s against common sense.
Kan xiinow wuu jiranyahay lol

Two jebertis armies are unfortunately going at it, where are these "majority" u keep talking about?