UN group: kenyan amisom commander lied to the som president

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UN group: kenyan amisom commander lied to the som president

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The UN confidential report accuses kenyanAMISOM of facilitating illgal charcoal exports in the port city kismayu.


U.N. CHARCOAL EXPORT BAN FLOUTED

The Monitoring Group's report is likely to elicit new criticism of Nairobi from Somalia's government, which has accused Kenyan troops of taking sides against it in the recent clashes in Kismayu and suggested they should be replaced by a more neutral force. Kenya denied the charge.

The group said Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud asked AMISOM in October 2012 to keep Kismayu port closed to commercial traffic, including charcoal. But it said he was unaware that former Prime Minister Abdiweli Mohamed Ali Gaas had already asked the Security Council's sanctions committee to review the ban.

The group said an AMISOM commander lied to the president.

"As late as 26 October 2012, the AMISOM Deputy Force Commander for Operations and Plans, Major General Simon Karanja (of Kenya), assured the President that the port was closed and there was no shipping traffic, while he knew otherwise," the Monitoring Group said.


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Good news brother sahal about the UN report, hopefully the world will see what kenya truly is and demand they leave Somalia.

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Kenya lost politically to culusow! everybody WHO tries to rival culusow will lose..
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Tell that to the raped women whom are jailed while the moryaan police who committed the rapes are free.
You people have a very limited understanding of geopolitics.......Kenya will be in southern Somalia for a decade. :D :som: :up:
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Individual wrote:Good news brother sahal about the UN report, hopefully the world will see what kenya truly is and demand they leave Somalia.

Thanks
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I'm not aware of it but the report has been submitted to them.

Maybe they are doing it on a case by case basis.

Now the AU is making some arrangements for posible replacement or reinstalling amisom in kismayo but it depends on the readiness of the countries that are providing the troops. At the moment uganda and burundi are ready to deploy their first part troops in there. They also want them to keep the security in the whole town not just having some bases so they can stops the wars...


The kenyans may not lose their mandate but will lose their credibility and this strengthens the govts position to deploy a multi-amisom with another country being in charge or some AU political independent office that works with the official local administration and the govt... The port and the airport will have a joint amisom...

Then the security council will support this when the AU job is done

This is what I think.
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original dervish wrote:Tell that to the raped women whom are jailed while the moryaan police who committed the rapes are free.
You people have a very limited understanding of geopolitics.......Kenya will be in southern Somalia for a decade. :D :som: :up:
I call that day dreaming
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Madman23 wrote:
original dervish wrote:Tell that to the raped women whom are jailed while the moryaan police who committed the rapes are free.
You people have a very limited understanding of geopolitics.......Kenya will be in southern Somalia for a decade. :D :som: :up:
I call that day dreaming
I call it












GAAL JECEL.
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sahal80 wrote:
Individual wrote:Good news brother sahal about the UN report, hopefully the world will see what kenya truly is and demand they leave Somalia.

Thanks
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I'm not aware of it but the report has been submitted to them.

Maybe they are doing it on a case by case basis.

Now the AU is making some arrangements for posible replacement or reinstalling amisom in kismayo but it depends on the readiness of the countries that are providing the troops. At the moment uganda and burundi are ready to deploy their first part troops in there. They also want them to keep the security in the whole town not just having some bases so they can stops the wars...


The kenyans may not lose their mandate but will lose their credibility and this strengthens the govts position to deploy a multi-amisom with another country being in charge or some AU political independent office that works with the official local administration and the govt... The port and the airport will have a joint amisom...

Then the security council will support this when the AU job is done

This is what I think.
Thanks sahal for the Info's.

NB; I have messaged you a Website link of the UN July Forecast report on the Key issues and action 's to be taken on Somalia by Security Council!
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original dervish wrote:Tell that to the raped women whom are jailed while the moryaan police who committed the rapes are free.
You people have a very limited understanding of geopolitics.......Kenya will be in southern Somalia for a decade. :D :som: :up:
Kenya may operate only as KDF but not in kismayo because amisom will be enough for it. Just like ethiopia they can operate along the borders because they are playing their security card.

If they want to stay as amisom, they must take the orders. Amisom is the govts ally and kenya is not hence the new arrangements...

Individual

Thanks bro, I will check it.
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You said the same thing when the Sierra Leone forces were being deployed.
Your basically repeating the hoped for Hag scenario over and over again.

The Kenyans are in a constant dialogue with the regional and international powers.
Do you really think the two bit refugee Somali Govt can outmaneuver Kenya diplomatically?

Nothing will change....mark my words y`all. :D :som: :up:
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original dervish wrote:You said the same thing when the Sierra Leone forces were being deployed.
Your basically repeating the hoped for Hag scenario over and over again.

The Kenyans are in a constant dialogue with the regional and international powers.
Do you really think the two bit refugee Somali Govt can outmaneuver Kenya diplomatically?

Nothing will change....mark my words y`all. :D :som: :up:
Firstly sierra leone in kismayo are just 200, the rest are still in xamar, the last ones arrived at 30 june, some are in other places in jubadahoose...however, they saved the other presidents...

There is no objectivity in your posts

The somali government is the winner in kismayo war not kenya or the rivals.

How?

The govt owns the political and security processes not amisom, amisom are keeping the peace not the general security except providing protection for the officials hence, a cooperation between amisom, local recognized administration and the govt is required.

Now the AU will give the command and accountabilty to a new amisom that can do the job as kenya failed.

Ambassador annadif is the head of amisom and is making now these arrangements with AU whom he represents them too. This guy is now in hassan sheekhs hands :D

He is an expert diplomat and knows what he is doing because he has been the chads FM since the 90s

Both kenya and ethiopias military roles are getting smaller, the last column of ethiopian forces in bay was leaving the airpot this day after they handed over three bases in three towns to amisom.

Aint saying kenya is finish though what I'm saying is the amisom getting prioritized, kenya will rally behind the new command and that command will work with the govt, the govt will establish the local administration...mostly with raaskambooni because they want to reach a political solution, they may reach solution in djabouti.
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I don`t doubt what your saying is true Sahal.
It`s just that I analyse and interpret them differently.

Kenya/Ethiopia are far more powerful and important than Somalia to the IC.
Realpolitik dictates that their interests will override those of a Somalia in complete disarray.

Hassan Sheikh is a powerless novice on the international stage.
His regime only has as much sovereignty as the foreigners allow him.

The outcome in Kismayo has already been decided.
It`s a fait accompli for the proponents of J/Land. :D :som: :up:
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lI think I have made a thread last night about how the westren clues were made by these two countries, they think kenya is the govts ally!

These two countries are the jewish of the horn

However there are now too much allegations againist kenya and this will place it behind

You have to understand that this govt was waiting this chance for a long time.

I believe the new arrangements will enable the govt...besides this there will still be a compromise that will take the govt and raaskambooni forward.

Anyways let us wait and see.

I'm just killing the time... come on :snoop:
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RSK have ceased to exist.
What you have is SNA....Kismayo police forces.

Compromise is a word foreign to Hassan Sheikhs vocabulary.
This sounds very much like a defeat for the Hagites, however much you try to spin it. :D :som: :up:
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sahal how can Culusow govt work with ras kamboni and totally ignore the real SNA troops who all left kismayo? this is not fair. culusow is rewarding tribalism.
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