Salaam!
OK, who considers themselves a feminist, and why? Guys, I'd especially like to hear from you.
Will all the Muslim Feminist please stand up?
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dhuusa_deer
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[quote="Say_what1"]I think feminists pushes women to much 
, Surely women can't do everything men are suppose to do[/quote]
you must lack ambition to use MEN as your yard stick for what you can and can't achieve.
Why would compare yourself with men, why not aim HIGHER. Why not think you can do better then men?
Women today man and comman space missions, repair the Hubble Telescope and woman invented Google.com. And you are comparing yourself to men...fuk, dumb bitches never seize to amaze.
, Surely women can't do everything men are suppose to do[/quote]you must lack ambition to use MEN as your yard stick for what you can and can't achieve.
Why would compare yourself with men, why not aim HIGHER. Why not think you can do better then men?
Women today man and comman space missions, repair the Hubble Telescope and woman invented Google.com. And you are comparing yourself to men...fuk, dumb bitches never seize to amaze.
Read this beautiful article about muslim sister who stood up for Islam and God given right........
Accused Morocco Islamist speaks out
A leading Islamist activist in Morocco says she is eagerly awaiting her trial on charges of insulting King Mohammed VI.
Nadia Yassine, of the outlawed but widely-popular Justice and Charity Group, could face up to five years in jail if convicted.
She was put on trial earlier this year for saying that she would prefer a republican system to Morocco's hereditary monarchy.
It is difficult not to be impressed by Nadia Yassine. She is anything but the stereotypical picture of an oppressed Muslim woman.
I will never regret what I have said... I am a free woman - I live in a country which claims to be democratic
Nadia Yassine
Politically active, articulate and well-educated, she is already a grandmother at 46. Her four daughters are, like her, committed Muslims pursuing academic careers.
Her husband is a university professor and also a senior member of the organisation.
She says he helped her bring up the children and is anything but a traditional Arab husband.
She lives with her family in Sala, a small town outside the capital Rabat and a stronghold of her group, which was created some 20 years ago by her father - the charismatic chief ideologue of the movement, the septuagenarian Sheikh Abdulsalam Yassine.
Women's rights campaigner
Nadia Yassine belongs to a new generation of Islamists: western-educated but not westernised. She quotes from the Koran and French sociologists in one breath.
Artist as well as activist, sitting in front of her own modernist painting of the name of Allah, she tells me that she has done nothing wrong.
"I will never regret what I have said. I am a free woman. I live in a country which claims to be democratic," she said.
It is freedom of speech itself which is being put on trial - I challenge them to try me
Nadia Yassine
"Freedom of speech is fundamental to democracy. Freedom of speech is a positive thing, not only for the Moroccans, but for all Muslim peoples who, for 14 centuries have been living the tragedy of silence, criminal silence."
Justice and Charity is Morocco's biggest Islamist organisation.
The group campaigns peacefully for the creation of an Islamic state, and derives its power and popularity from helping the poor through a network of charities across the country.
Nadia Yassine's political views are not only too radical for the Moroccan establishment, but her stance on women's issues is far too liberal for hard-line Islamists.
She believes that "Muslims have inflicted a terrible injustice on women in the name of Islam".
She says that there is an urgent need for re-interpreting Islamic tradition, and unless women are involved in that process they will never come out of their trap.
Muslim women should have the right to divorce their husbands, she says, and should be consulted before their husbands take another wife.
"The Koran is clear cut on the issue of polygamy. No Muslim can change that text.
"But women also have the right in principle to refuse polygamy, because marriage in Islam is a civil contract... and in a civil contract the woman has the right to include any conditions she likes."
Islamist values
But despite that, she demonstrated against recent reforms of family law giving Moroccan women precisely these rights.
She says the demonstration was political in nature, and not religious.
The accusation of insulting the king may not come to trial
The government's reforms were cosmetic and mainly intended to improve its international image rather than helping women, she adds.
She says legislation alone will not change the reality of women, unless backed by socio-economic reforms that empower women.
It is not entirely clear whether the trial of Nadia Yassine for allegedly insulting the Moroccan king will resume.
She suggests that US pressure may have led the government to drop the case altogether.
But she is not grateful, because there is no love lost between Islamists like her and Washington.
"It is freedom of speech itself which is being put on trial. I challenge them to try me," she says, gesticulating defiantly with a smile on her face.
Accused Morocco Islamist speaks out
A leading Islamist activist in Morocco says she is eagerly awaiting her trial on charges of insulting King Mohammed VI.
Nadia Yassine, of the outlawed but widely-popular Justice and Charity Group, could face up to five years in jail if convicted.
She was put on trial earlier this year for saying that she would prefer a republican system to Morocco's hereditary monarchy.
It is difficult not to be impressed by Nadia Yassine. She is anything but the stereotypical picture of an oppressed Muslim woman.
I will never regret what I have said... I am a free woman - I live in a country which claims to be democratic
Nadia Yassine
Politically active, articulate and well-educated, she is already a grandmother at 46. Her four daughters are, like her, committed Muslims pursuing academic careers.
Her husband is a university professor and also a senior member of the organisation.
She says he helped her bring up the children and is anything but a traditional Arab husband.
She lives with her family in Sala, a small town outside the capital Rabat and a stronghold of her group, which was created some 20 years ago by her father - the charismatic chief ideologue of the movement, the septuagenarian Sheikh Abdulsalam Yassine.
Women's rights campaigner
Nadia Yassine belongs to a new generation of Islamists: western-educated but not westernised. She quotes from the Koran and French sociologists in one breath.
Artist as well as activist, sitting in front of her own modernist painting of the name of Allah, she tells me that she has done nothing wrong.
"I will never regret what I have said. I am a free woman. I live in a country which claims to be democratic," she said.
It is freedom of speech itself which is being put on trial - I challenge them to try me
Nadia Yassine
"Freedom of speech is fundamental to democracy. Freedom of speech is a positive thing, not only for the Moroccans, but for all Muslim peoples who, for 14 centuries have been living the tragedy of silence, criminal silence."
Justice and Charity is Morocco's biggest Islamist organisation.
The group campaigns peacefully for the creation of an Islamic state, and derives its power and popularity from helping the poor through a network of charities across the country.
Nadia Yassine's political views are not only too radical for the Moroccan establishment, but her stance on women's issues is far too liberal for hard-line Islamists.
She believes that "Muslims have inflicted a terrible injustice on women in the name of Islam".
She says that there is an urgent need for re-interpreting Islamic tradition, and unless women are involved in that process they will never come out of their trap.
Muslim women should have the right to divorce their husbands, she says, and should be consulted before their husbands take another wife.
"The Koran is clear cut on the issue of polygamy. No Muslim can change that text.
"But women also have the right in principle to refuse polygamy, because marriage in Islam is a civil contract... and in a civil contract the woman has the right to include any conditions she likes."
Islamist values
But despite that, she demonstrated against recent reforms of family law giving Moroccan women precisely these rights.
She says the demonstration was political in nature, and not religious.
The accusation of insulting the king may not come to trial
The government's reforms were cosmetic and mainly intended to improve its international image rather than helping women, she adds.
She says legislation alone will not change the reality of women, unless backed by socio-economic reforms that empower women.
It is not entirely clear whether the trial of Nadia Yassine for allegedly insulting the Moroccan king will resume.
She suggests that US pressure may have led the government to drop the case altogether.
But she is not grateful, because there is no love lost between Islamists like her and Washington.
"It is freedom of speech itself which is being put on trial. I challenge them to try me," she says, gesticulating defiantly with a smile on her face.
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mizz_chief
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Muktaar....
do u pray 5 times a day
do u preach
do u do good deeds...
why are u always tryna make girls look bad, esp with ur useless pathetic somali women and adoon post.. HOW CAMN U EXPECT RESPECT from anyone womn when u carry that disgusting avator... I SAY GO FUC.K YOURSELF... walahi idiots like u who post that somali women should be sent back to somali to be raped sickens me... nacala wajigaa... sick boy
do u pray 5 times a day
do u preach
do u do good deeds...
why are u always tryna make girls look bad, esp with ur useless pathetic somali women and adoon post.. HOW CAMN U EXPECT RESPECT from anyone womn when u carry that disgusting avator... I SAY GO FUC.K YOURSELF... walahi idiots like u who post that somali women should be sent back to somali to be raped sickens me... nacala wajigaa... sick boy
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*Faithful
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Do you wear hijab:Yes
Are you sexually active:No are you?
What u think of Ayan Hiris:I think what she is doing is wrong,but she's giving the muslim women like myself to achieve more things than clear house..But for her to attack Islam like that was wrong.
Do u think women should be Imans:Yes,why not!Women are more intelligent than guys.
Dhuusa Deer did you see me comparing myself to men?
Are you sexually active:No are you?
What u think of Ayan Hiris:I think what she is doing is wrong,but she's giving the muslim women like myself to achieve more things than clear house..But for her to attack Islam like that was wrong.
Do u think women should be Imans:Yes,why not!Women are more intelligent than guys.
Dhuusa Deer did you see me comparing myself to men?
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dhuusa_deer
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Some of the things they say are beyond crazy,radical feminists have ruined the image of feminists...Out of all the feminist sects I agree most w/ cultural feminists.-
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*Faithful
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Muktaar whatever your stupid nick is.Dont twist my words waryaa.I said what Ayan Hiris is doing as a Somali woman in the Neitherland Parliament is great.But what she is doing to the Islam name is wrong and she should be talked to than slander her for that.
Yes women should be iman,but not Ayan Hiris since she claims not to be a muslim person anymore.
Yes women should be iman,but not Ayan Hiris since she claims not to be a muslim person anymore.
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*Faithful
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[quote="dhuusa_deer"][quote="*Faithful"]I'm sure i'm better than them(men).[/quote]
You're not better then me or many men I know with that attitude. To be better them men or other women you have to work for it.
It's not privilage you get by default.
Are you by any chance femanazi (fascist femanists)?[/quote]
Yes i'm 100% sure i'm better than men!
If you put it that way,Yes i'm Femanazi! why you want to join the cause?
You're not better then me or many men I know with that attitude. To be better them men or other women you have to work for it.
It's not privilage you get by default.
Are you by any chance femanazi (fascist femanists)?[/quote]
Yes i'm 100% sure i'm better than men!
If you put it that way,Yes i'm Femanazi! why you want to join the cause?
[quote="*Faithful"]YES we can![/quote]
Allah(swt) has give men and women different responsibility and and different rights,
Why do you wanna be so hard on women? do what a women to earn her own money while having a newborn baby to take care of for example? We need to follow the sunnah of the prophet and allahs words that is if you are a muslim.
dhuusa_deer what are u talking about man? why quote me and talk about things that are not relevent to what I said,
Allah(swt) has give men and women different responsibility and and different rights,
Why do you wanna be so hard on women? do what a women to earn her own money while having a newborn baby to take care of for example? We need to follow the sunnah of the prophet and allahs words that is if you are a muslim.
dhuusa_deer what are u talking about man? why quote me and talk about things that are not relevent to what I said,
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