Somali politics

[metamorphosis]

Hawiye= Centralists because they settle in very few lands and presidency is the only way they can remain relevant or rule.
Isaaq= Secessionists because they dont trust southerners and two, they also settle in very small lands thus powerless.
Darood= Federalists because they settle in the most lands and will thus rule more than half of Somalia via federalism.

The essence of Somali politics explained in three lines.

[Individual]

You do realise that hawiye has plenty of lands as same as the daroods!

From south calkacyo up to S/hoose a Hawiye zone land!

[GAMES]

Everyone is looking out for their best interest and that's why a lot of people appose this new Dastuur.

Btw, how is your Adeer Faroole doing in Garoowe?

[Titanium]

Darod are not federalist. They seek autonomy. They believe in nations within a nation. They don't believe in the federal system that exists in real federal countries like U.S.A, Canada or Australia.

Despite living in "the most lands", you are smaller than both Hawiye and Isaaq in Somalia. Their lands are populated. Darods don't have cities. Their lands are just barren wastelands. They are mostly a nomadic people. Their largest city is 150,000. Mogadishu is 2-3 million while Hargeisa is well over a million.

Living in barren wastelands with no people in them doesn't give you any advantages. You are only pushing for "federalism" in Somalia because you are nothing in Mogadishu, seek to stay relevant in Somalia and are scared shitless of Hawiye political dominance. That's all it boils down too.

But with or without federalism, Hawiye will forever continue to dominate.

[HooBariiska]

Darod are not federalist. They seek autonomy. They believe in nations within a nation. They don't believe in the federal system that exists in real federal countries like U.S.A, Canada or Australia.

Despite living in "the most lands", you are smaller than both Hawiye and Isaaq in Somalia. Their lands are populated. Darods don't have cities. Their lands are just barren wastelands. They are mostly a nomadic people. Their largest city is 150,000. Mogadishu is 2-3 million while Hargeisa is well over a million.

Living in barren wastelands with no people in them doesn't give you any advantages. You are only pushing for "federalism" in Somalia because you are nothing in Mogadishu and seek to stay relevant in Somalia. That's all it boils down too.

[Individual]

Anyway it's not lands that rules Somalia but guns, HG sacad alone during civil war OWNED from Bari to Gedo!

Now that hawiye are united and are the government, and pretty soon The Arms embargo will be lifted (7months left), these army will help hawiye finish off what HG Sacad started EXPANSIONISM

[Advo]

Puntland
212,510 km
282,050 sq mi 

Jubbaland
87,000 km
233,000 sq mi 

Somalia
637,657 km2
246,200 sq mi 

Do the math

[Somali-Transporter]

Puntland
212,510 km
282,050 sq mi 

Jubbaland
87,000 km
233,000 sq mi 

Somalia
637,657 km2
246,200 sq mi 

Do the math

WTH..

Jubba dhexe is not yours. Jilib, buale and the small villages. + J. hoose Jamaame is not your either. Kismayo shared city. what do you got left, Afmadow, ras kombani iyo doobleey. + gedo.

the only region i admire of all darood land is gedo, then you have left one huge desert. is like algeria! huge deserts. do not look at the size, but the quality.

[SecretAgent]

Loooool@advo #s dude puntland is 2.5 gobals, jubbaland is 37 different clans wit darods bein minority darods only nugal,bari,lower jubba in somalia nothing else So ur numbers r proved wrong nigga

[hydrogen]

Jubba dhexe is not yours.

Even after 20 years of bloodshed?

[SecretAgent]

Hutu lands #1 sool,sheik city,mudug2middle jubba,hutus r 25percent of somalia,eleys 23percent,issaqs r 20percent,darods r 15percent,Dirs r 6percent,0.5ppl r 4percent

[metamorphosis]

Darod are not federalist. They seek autonomy. They believe in nations within a nation. They don't believe in the federal system that exists in real federal countries like U.S.A, Canada or Australia.

Despite living in "the most lands", you are smaller than both Hawiye and Isaaq in Somalia. Their lands are populated. Darods don't have cities. Their lands are just barren wastelands. They are mostly a nomadic people. Their largest city is 150,000. Mogadishu is 2-3 million while Hargeisa is well over a million.

Living in barren wastelands with no people in them doesn't give you any advantages. You are only pushing for "federalism" in Somalia because you are nothing in Mogadishu, seek to stay relevant in Somalia and are scared shitless of Hawiye political dominance. That's all it boils down too.

But with or without federalism, Hawiye will forever continue to dominate.

Dude chill. This is not a qabiil competition thread. Just an analytical insights to current somali affairs. You take everything as either black or White. Come have some tea with me in the gray area. Besides mogadisho was built for you and then you levelled it to the ground and it is being rebuilt for you again you probably will destroy it once again because hawiye people have some unexplained, innate affinity to crime and destruction.

[GeoSeven]

For the sake of argument, even if we were to assume that Darod has the most extensive lands in Somalia, attributing political relevance to territorial size is a parochial view of things. The federal system in Somalia is flawed and not even finalized. In a well established Federalist form of governance, population is what determines the weight of a regions say in national matters.

[metamorphosis]

For the sake of argument, even if we were to assume that Darod has the most extensive lands in Somalia, attributing political relevance to territorial size is a parochial view of things. The federal system in Somalia is flawed and not even finalized. In a well established Federalist form of governance, population is what determines the weight of a regions say in national matters.

Population doesnt determine jack. Take Israel for example.

[Marques]

War dhul haduu wax taraayo the Oromos would be kings of Ethiopia laakin sida cayayaanka oo kale ayaa leeska jafaa dadkaas it's about economic affluence and manpower bro. The Raxanweyn in theory should be the real kingpins of Somalia they own the breadbasket and have the most access to the two rivers and the L.Shabelle Basin with a coast like Baraawe