tribal wars: between natives and aliens

Otali · Post by **Otali** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:01 am

tribal injustice was/is source of power in Somalia which then left behind new forms of power...for example whenever you have a situation where men who are Ã¢Â€ÂœaliensÃ¢Â€ÂÃ¢Â€Â” in the extreme sense of the word, as in somalia. That is men who by all appearance and even language look like you, but who are not of you reside or come to the societies in which they live (darod). These men who are not descended from any discernible ancestor as the majority of the population (Somalis). When they COME TO POWER through usurpation, trickery or other vile means as is the case. When these traitors acquire stations where they have an authority over the lives of the innocent people whom they deceived and now begin to slaughter and deprive them in every possible manner of their rightful inheritance (land and national wealth), the masses of true-born (Somalis), as did happen in Somalia, in germany and other nations in history will inevitably rise up and their will be cycle of bloodbath revolution wars of very uncivil manner. The only strange thing in the case of Somalia is why it took so long for Somalia gross injustices to be set aright in 1990, and not say in 1960s when the rightful president mr. adden adde UNBELIEBABLY voluntarily gave up his presidency and thus sealed the fate of his people for the cheapest sell out in history: darood- to mess this land?
And now once again their will be another tribal wars for even regardless you see that the deposits are still there: so what is the solution?

Aden Adde: first president of somalia, hawiye man, gave up presidency in fail bid at appeasement and national unity. Indeed the man GAVE majority of seats to Isak and let the darod do as they wish, only to see what came after in the form of massacres and corruption against his brethern under imbeciles ali shamarke and then killer siyaad seelweyne.

We all know the solution to somalia problems and unfortunately Otali is waiting for that Ã¢Â€ÂœsolutionÃ¢Â€Â to violently breakthrough and state it as it is: SOMEOBODY GOTta GO FIND WHERE THEY CAME FROM, DOOROOOS CÃ¢Â€Â™MON GO BACK, HAHAHA, YEMEN IS TAKING IN REFUGEES! HAHAHAHA, FUUCKERS Exclamation

QansaGabeyle · Post by **QansaGabeyle** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:06 am

You are funny saaxib. You should go audition at the Appollo or something.

Cawar · Post by **Cawar** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:11 am

"Aden Adde: first president of somalia, hawiye man, gave up presidency in fail bid at appeasement and national unity. Indeed the man GAVE majority of seats to Isak and let the darod do as they wish, only to see what came after in the form of massacres and corruption against his brethern under imbeciles ali shamarke and then killer siyaad seelweyne.

We all know the solution to somalia problems and unfortunately Otali is waiting for that Ã¢Â€ÂœsolutionÃ¢Â€Â to violently breakthrough and state it as it is: SOMEOBODY GOTta GO FIND WHERE THEY CAME FROM, DOOROOOS CÃ¢Â€Â™MON GO BACK, HAHAHA, YEMEN IS TAKING IN REFUGEES! HAHAHAHA, FUUCKERS"

Dont live on the past man, so what if Aden Cadde was a decent person who gave up his presidency, it was agreed upon that anyway.. do you even know the history of how the Gov. worked back then???

But the best example would be Aidid who not only gave up anything, but acted and killed hiw own pple in order to gain power, just like the guy he ws trying to replace or even worse, as many from his qabil(the open minded) would agree Exclamation

As for Qabilism....its has left its marks on the confused, the bamboozled, the dysplexed and the so called reer badiye, if you are one of them...then no wonder why you are who you are. Razz

Otali · Post by **Otali** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:15 am

you know what is so amazing is when a hawiye man aden adde gave up the ultimate seat of power when every african leader in the 1960s indepedence stayed on until their very death for like 20, 30 years, this hawiye man did it because he wanted to appease the Darod. So Qansa how did darod repay the Hawiye?

now that was funny, no?

in a situation where you have the classical questions everyone asksf " If you were in that situaiton you would do the same thing"

how does a darod today feeling all pissed about 1990s, a fraction of the killings and abuses they were doing, can even speak to me? when that Mr. Aden Adde was in a position to arm and literily give every Hawiye in 1960 the whole government treasury as siyad Barre did just 9 years after and insitutute at every provision tribal discrimation,
CHOSE NOT TO do tribal dictatorship, chose not to kill you?

Otali

Otali · Post by **Otali** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:22 am

hahaha, Caward, I'm not surprised every darod just loves to say HOW SUCH A NICE AND DECENT MAN ADEN ADDE WAS, the truth is aden adde was a good hearted fool who every Hawiye man hates, included probably his own qabil, hates him to death and would have loved and prayed that at that exact time to have some one like AYDIID making that call, who WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THAT FUUCKIN CATASTROPHIC MISTAKE IN 1961 WHICH OPEN THE DOORS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WENT WRONG UP UNTIL 1991 Exclamation

QansaGabeyle · Post by **QansaGabeyle** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:23 am

Is there someone you don't hate besides Caydiid?

Raven_Sky · Post by **Raven_Sky** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:26 am

The man was stupid and idiot for giving up his power to the great clan darood. Laughing

Hutu's arent allowed to have powers you got me man? Laughing

Ducaale004 · Post by **Ducaale004** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:28 am

Aden didn't promote himself to the presidential seat of the 1960. SYL promoted him, the ruling party of the 60s with extremely a large number of Darod members.

Aden Cade was installed in order to downsize a potential, internal division.

Cawar · Post by **Cawar** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:32 am

Do You agree with your self little Utali/Soor or whatever you may wanna call yourself????.

You either like or hate Aden Cadde, dont just hate him when we praise him and dont praise him when no one talks abt him... just stick to your point.

If All you have to show for your pride is Adid, then Hawiyas have a big minus to label with the rest of the Somalis and I meant it. At least talk abt Addow or C/Qaasim(which I respect) or any other dcent HG, but not the killer in order to justify your awkwardness and animalistic behaviour, cos that was what Aidid stood for.

As for Aden Adde, well I respect him(maybe not like him as much..lol, even you Hawiyas dont.) more than Siad Barre, however if you still thinking that any such president of Somalia would do the same as Siad, then you are like those I have seen in many Star Bucks around the country,.....Baar lafo ku didrid, reer baadiyo and the whole 9 yards. Smile

So how can we expect Somalia to become a dignified and legit nation, provided that pple like rappresent the ruling/alleged party/govnmt???

Raven_Sky · Post by **Raven_Sky** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:36 am

Hutus aka hawyie cant be a leader of a nation like somalia.Maybe in congo. Laughing

Otali · Post by **Otali** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:07 am

Aden Adde symbolic of premoderial(at least going back whenever the alien formation of darod took place) a question Hawiyes have had to ask which is: would any appeasement or brotherly expectations from this darod work, are they really one of us after living with us? That is to say, what eventually are the results of these strategies at co-existence in terms of their manifest and declared objectives? Obviously, as history proved Adde and any run of the mill Hawiye who gets blinded with any notions that these darod are truly somali, ancestry wise that is not even a question you are not somali, must confront the reality of things.

Aydiid is symbolic of HAWIYE collective response that is yet not over. That began. After evulating the said question and catastrophic results of Aden Adde gesture, he came to the simple conclusion as does any hawiye or somali, that as in medicine, as in SOMALIA with darod. Even if there are going to be terrible side-effects, damaging side-effects, on a balance the good would outweigh the harm and Hawiyes and all somalia would ultimately benefit by building a rational and benevolent society were all tribes would be equal. He understood that only through such means was justice to arrive, and so it did.

But, UNFORTUNATELY, the building a rational and benevolent somalia has taken a detour, another Aydiid moment will bring back the question to the center: the solution

the momentum is stalling

Otali

Post by **Basra-** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:12 am

Otali--do u have any adoon friends????? Rolling Eyes

Newboy · Post by **Newboy** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:13 am

f u alll

optimist_1 · Post by **optimist_1** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:18 am

Leave the Ujeejeen man alone.

Shows even the smallest of Mudulood can rule somalia Razz

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HG should have been more diplomatic maybe then Ali Mahdi would back off. The thing is HG with their all their weapons tried to kill every one in Mogadishu. Offcourse it was inevitable that Ceydiid would meet his angel of death in Mogadishu.

Otali · Post by **Otali** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:45 pm

Ujeejeen?

optimist_1 now, i did not know that aden adde was abgal, amazing!
and here i was under the impression that he was badi adi or galjecel hawiye from hiiraan.
gee golly you learn something new every day!