Did Madoobe back stab Puntland?

[BlackRain]

Discuss...

[The_Patriot]

How so? Axmed was never an agent of Faroole.

[Hawdian]

Madobe always knew that he is mere Cagdheer who have no say nor influence in Somali politics. They are technically refugees in Somali soil. Their master is Ethiopia and what Ethiopia tells them is the holy text that no one can challenge. When Ethiopia told Madobe he must respect the wishes of Somalia's Federal Government he had no choice but to submit and sign the deal while Farole was kept outside.

When Farole heard the Cagdheer Islamist Madobe was submitting because his Ethiopian master got him inside his room, he rushed to Nairobi to work something out with the Kikuyu but the Kikuyu know once the fish is inside the jaws of the shark (Ethiopia) they can't do anything. So Farole ran to Addis Ababa to beg but he was blocked from entering any of the meetings.

Ethiopia understands the game now and knows their interest is with pleasing Mogadishu and that is the only way to maintain Ethiopia-Somalia relations. For the rest there is Abdi Iley and Liyu Police. They will be unleashed like mad dogs...they will sniff every opposition including ONLF and associates.

Farole never had any influence on Madobe. THe Cagdheer know the MJ can't do anything for them. Only Hawiye can fight for them and now that they are made to go against the Hawiye, things look promising. The final nail on the coffin is getting the Hawiye to control Kismayo while not giving them too much power to manipulate the region and help ONLF and likes. Its a great counter balance to Ethiopia's advantage.

For months I have been advising the Ethiopian government and finally they are taking serious action. The next thing is sending Ethiopian forces inside Gedo, the lower Jubba.

Hawiye just need to mind their own business.

Under the terms of Wednesday's deal, Madobe will be leader of the interim Juba Administration for a period of two years.

The authority under his control will manage the port for six months after which control will shift to the federal government, although revenues will pay for services in the Juba region.

Ethiopian Foreign minister says...labadiinaba aniga idin qaba...my hand is above both of you.

[BlackRain]

How so? Axmed was never an agent of Faroole.

NO madobe wasn't Faroole agent , but the deal was to checkmate Culusow. Puntland did their part and Jubbaland was supposed to follow suit. By agreeing with Culosow, you have given him legitimacy that he hasn't earned.

[Hawdian]

BlackRain,

You have to understand Ethiopia is the superpower of the region and what it says goes through. Addis Ababa is backing the Hawiye because they are more potential ally than the Ogaden and associates. Kenya on the other hand was relying on the Ogaden to expand into southern Somalia (buffer zone, increase maritime border and exploit the gas fields).

That won't happen now because Addis Ababa is inline with Mogadishu and Nairobi doesn't have such power nor influence.

The six months period given to Madobe to manage the port is only in words...thats how long Ethiopia needs to prepare its army for Kismayo entry.

[The_Patriot]

Meshan turub ba laciyaraya.

The delegates from Jubba side wa Gandi and ina Cabdi Rashiid.

What does this agreement give Culusow?He came for the ports and he left without it. Hewas only given a bit of a name change.Nor was he given the sole responsibility to name administrators.

As for the military integration do you think RK will just merge with Indocadhe and Goobale gangs?

[BlackRain]

BlackRain,

You have to understand Ethiopia is the superpower of the region and what it says goes through. Addis Ababa is backing the Hawiye because they are more potential ally than the Ogaden and associates. Kenya on the other hand was relying on the Ogaden to expand into southern Somalia (buffer zone, increase maritime border and exploit the gas fields).

That won't happen now because Addis Ababa is inline with Mogadishu and Nairobi doesn't have such power nor influence.

The six months period given to Madobe to manage the port is only in words...thats how long Ethiopia needs to prepare its army for Kismayo entry.

So in other words, Ethiopia see Hawiye as an Ally against Ogadens? So on one hand you are saying Ogadens are slaves to Ethiopia and on the other hand you are saying Ethiopia is allying themselves with Hawiye, because Ethiopia fear Ogadens? Which is it? your political analyzes is @ zero

[Titanium]

Meshan turub ba laciyaraya.

The delegates from Jubba side wa Gandi and ina Cabdi Rashiid.

What does this agreement give Culusow?He came for the ports and he left without it. Hewas only given a bit of a name change.Nor was he given the sole responsibility to name administrators.

As for the military integration do you think RK will just merge with Indocadhe and Goobale gangs?

The deal will still see Madobe remain in charge of Jubaland for a two-year transitional period, but he did agree to hand over control of the port and airport in the strategic coastal city of Kismayo.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 0a89fd.281

[BlackRain]

Meshan turub ba laciyaraya.

The delegates from Jubba side wa Gandi and ina Cabdi Rashiid.

What does this agreement give Culusow?He came for the ports and he left without it. Hewas only given a bit of a name change.Nor was he given the sole responsibility to name administrators.

As for the military integration do you think RK will just merge with Indocadhe and Goobale gangs?

You have signed this treaty and if you break it, you will be seen as spoiler . Bad move from Madobe. I don't believe Ethiopia forced anything on him. I hope he isn't one of those leaders who is only for the limelight

[The_Patriot]

Meshan turub ba laciyaraya.

The delegates from Jubba side wa Gandi and ina Cabdi Rashiid.

What does this agreement give Culusow?He came for the ports and he left without it. Hewas only given a bit of a name change.Nor was he given the sole responsibility to name administrators.

As for the military integration do you think RK will just merge with Indocadhe and Goobale gangs?

The deal will still see Madobe remain in charge of Jubaland for a two-year transitional period, but he did agree to hand over control of the port and airport in the strategic coastal city of Kismayo.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 0a89fd.281

Titanium, go read the official agreement in English.Why use a secondary source to try to legitimise your lies.

[Titanium]

Meshan turub ba laciyaraya.

The delegates from Jubba side wa Gandi and ina Cabdi Rashiid.

What does this agreement give Culusow?He came for the ports and he left without it. Hewas only given a bit of a name change.Nor was he given the sole responsibility to name administrators.

As for the military integration do you think RK will just merge with Indocadhe and Goobale gangs?

The deal will still see Madobe remain in charge of Jubaland for a two-year transitional period, but he did agree to hand over control of the port and airport in the strategic coastal city of Kismayo.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 0a89fd.281

Titanium, go read the official agreement in English.Why use a secondary source to try to legitimise your lies.

The AFP is a respectable Western news agency. All newspapers and media get their news source from either AFP or Reuters. AFP is prestigious. Are you aware of who the AFP are?

Anyways, it seems like you haven't read the official agreement.

ARTICLE TWO
On the Management of Federal Institutions and Infrastructure

10. The Federal Institutions and Infrastructure, including the Kismayo Airport and Kismayo Seaport and other institutions shall be recognized as the assets and commonwealth of the people of Somalia.

11. That the Kismayo Airport and Kismayo Seaport shall be utilized in a manner that is beneficial to the peace and prosperity of the people of Somalia under the leadership and management of the Federal Government of Somalia.

12. The Kismayo Sea Port and Air Port Management shall be handed-over to the Federal Government of Somalia (FGS) in 6 months period; after which the Federal Government of Somalia shall appoint a competent management team in consultation with the Interim Jubba Administration meanwhile the current management of port prevails for the next 6 months. The Federal Government of Somalia will appoint immigration officers to all entry points.

This is a good day for Somalia.

[The_Patriot]

Dude seems like you interpret things the way you like it to be.

Should I remind you that Culusow had never wished to recognise Axmed's Admin.
Surely he couldnt have sent Baasto, Hiraale,Baale and the rest in Kismaayo and waste a lot of money and travel to Addis ,Kampala and Nairobi seeking full authority of Kismaayo and in the end agree with Axmed's Admin.

[The_Patriot]

Dude seems like you interpret things the way you like it to be.

Should I remind you that Culusow had never wished to recognise Axmed's Admin.
Surely he couldnt have sent Baasto, Hiraale,Baale and the rest in Kismaayo and waste a lot of money and travel to Addis ,Kampala and Nairobi seeking full authority of Kismaayo and in the end agree with Axmed's Admin.

[Hawdian]

This is great day for Hawiye and the SFG. In that six month window gap Cullusow has to step up his game in Addis Ababa and work out a joint military entry in Kismayo between Ethiopia, SNA and Marehan militia under ASWJ member Barre Hirale. You can't trust ONLF thugs like Madobe with paper.

Cullusow is very slow because he is not utilizing Ethiopia to the way he truly can. He is just a simple NGO man in office.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Loool..faroole...mel cidlu Ku so haray. Caku ethiopia.