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Verily whenever kings enter a country they corrupt it and turn the noblest of its people into the most abject
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Sadam had only two kurdish judges and was also replaced by a kurdi r@t...some secret sources add that the new president jalal talibani has met him in his prison to give him the last humilation in his life!!

The kurdistan legislative elections has begun...the official opposition party is called movement for change...kurds are tribal people though not having tribes instead they have regionalism and dialects for exmaple the kurdistan region president is closer to the syrian kurds than other kurds in iraq...mostly sulamaniya wich the president of iraq(in hospital in europe for 3 months) hails from.

There is an ikhwan party too

What I meant is the people are too qabali/cashairi(different concept than the somali political tribalism they are only loyal to their patronage)hence are not welcoming any thing new, however, the rampant corruption has given a political landscape to the progressive change party/harakat tagyir


America is againist the regional president to continue any more so he added 2 years into his last ever term...however the ruling kurdistan coalition(from the two traditional kurdistan parties led by talibani and barazani from the traditional and historical ruling agha and malali families) will likely to stay in the power because of their billions of dollars and they already started going to the peoples houses and places...yeah its democracy :lol:

Btw dam jadiid is planning the same thing to do in the regional elections in post-national stabilization plan or where ever elections are going on!

Now back to our title

The somali and iraqi politics seem to resemble eachother, the tendency to have regional fragmentation, the loyalty to the foreingners except that there are no political interests in the somali case as the somalis unlike of the iraqis are unable to develop :roll:

This is why I'm interested in the iraqi politics using the comprative policy of the political science

We have talked about the land and the system in a recent thread, now let us have a look at the iraqi politics

In this era, the shites are the nationalists and patriots of iraq, their national slogan is al iraq al waxid al mowaxad wich scares the kurds. Though kurdistan is an autonomous region constitutionally since 95 it has been threatened one time by the iraqi forces until they accepted malikis economical policies so there is no too much jooqjooq(challenge)

As a regional allies, both most of the kurds and shia are associated with iran and were a local political allies back in the 80s

The sunni arabs have conflicts with both of them...land dispute and historical divide with kurds and sectarian conflict with shia

Shia are dominating in the institutions out of kurdistan...the sunni arabs suffer from this control and are resisting it by all means...for this reason, the disputed provinces between them and kurds is likey to be seconded to their new strategy as they are now seeking alliance with kurds

for a long time, the kurds were offering to them a 10 years contract that funds them if they adopt their autonomy model as the arab sunnis have no oil and economically depend on the shia...meantime the kurds are affraid of a strong sunni arabs because of the land dispute between them but their kurdish national interests goes along with a fragmented iraq to minimaze the shia states control

Kurdistan authority have lately started treating the wounded arab sunnis in their hospitals

Turkey is now playing a role of bringing the kurds and sunni arabs closer together

sunni arabs have now started seeking autonomy after the iraqi forces destroyed their markets

sunni arabs have the most important towns including baghdad, mosil, anbaar and the disputed provinces between them and kurds
Destroyed Sunni arab market
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Da kurds r like issaq,sunnis r puntland n shia is hawiye lool
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SecretAgent wrote:Da kurds r like issaq,sunnis r puntland n shia is hawiye lool
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You get it! My comprative policy method have worked!

The question is are you able to devolope from your irirism and support jubbaland?
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Jubbaland is like basra city home of hard core shia groups loyal to iran,sunnis n kurds wen allies r like irirism, da mahdi army of al sadr is like ahmed madobe RK group
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sahal shut up :| :|
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Shia PM maliki is makin a big mistake by turning powerful shia militias into security forces,dis move comes from da different shia political fictions but this militias will not enter da self rule areas of kurds will it work maybe not
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SecretAgent wrote:Jubbaland is like basra city home of hard core shia groups loyal to iran,sunnis n kurds wen allies r like irirism, da mahdi army of al sadr is like ahmed madobe RK group
Answer this! We the shia patriots have moved on and we much care about the unity of the somali territory.
In this era, the shites are the nationalists and patriots of iraq, their national slogan is al iraq al waxid al mowaxad wich scares the kurds. Though kurdistan is an autonomous region constitutionally since 95 it has been threatened one time by the iraqi forces until they accepted malikis economical policies so there is no too much jooqjooq(challenge)

both most of the kurds and shia are associated with iran and were a local political allies back in the 80s

The sunni arabs have conflicts with both of them...land dispute and historical divide with kurds and sectarian conflict with shia
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Sahal based on your analyse, how do you see a solution for Somalia's political and unity problems!
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Individual wrote:Sahal based on your analyse, how do you see a solution for Somalia's political and unity problems!
Shia are forcing the kurds into a national unity. The kurds are unable to develop from irirism and any cooperation will lead into a unity.
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sahal80 wrote:
Individual wrote:Sahal based on your analyse, how do you see a solution for Somalia's political and unity problems!
Shia are forcing the kurds into a national unity. The kurds are unable to develop from irirism and any cooperation will lead into a unity.
:lol: Now translate that into the Somali politics for those who comprehension isn't their strong suit!
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Individual wrote:
sahal80 wrote:
Individual wrote:Sahal based on your analyse, how do you see a solution for Somalia's political and unity problems!
Shia are forcing the kurds into a national unity. The kurds are unable to develop from irirism and any cooperation will lead into a unity.
:lol: Now translate that into the Somali politics for those who comprehension isn't their strong suit!
:lol: we are moving them from al mosasal al modablaj to al siyasa al modablajah!

Its just my analysis not the current positions of some sides

There is no local pressure on the govt and the cooperation feeds it more this is why this analysis...
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sahal80 wrote:
:lol: we moving them from al mosasal al modablaj to al siyasa al modablajah!

Its just my analysis not the current positions of some sides

There is no local pressure on the govt and the cooperation feeds it more this is why this analysis...
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Sahal, what do you mean "moving them from Dubbed Series to Dubbed Politics'', care to explain to me properly?
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is sahal single? :roll: :roll:
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Individual wrote:
sahal80 wrote:
:lol: we moving them from al mosasal al modablaj to al siyasa al modablajah!

Its just my analysis not the current positions of some sides

There is no local pressure on the govt and the cooperation feeds it more this is why this analysis...
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Sahal, what do you mean "moving them from Dubbed Series to Dubbed Politics'', care to explain to me properly?[/quote]
Its obvious that somalis are familiar with the drama dublaj so we are here introducing the political dublaj

I'm glad your cosmopolitan guy unlike of the stright/cala toul from the toolo to the american city guys of this site.

We share political ideology with these muslim third world countries mostly the arabs with the key patterns of cultural similarities

This is the reason why professor samatar has failed, he only knows the anglo-american culture and didn't know that the somali politics even in a free election goes along with its third world equivalents!!

I was debating a guy from this site who made a thread about the presidents role being ceremonial and that the new pm will have the executive power...the same guy has lately made a thread says; saacid has to resign!!

The funny thing is that he was accusing me of bringing arab third world models!!

He doesn't even know who has sponsored the new govt!!!

Most ignorent somalis are based in america who has no legendery and wants to export to us its anarcho-culture


France ideolgoy believes in la exeption culturelle, this is why the paris-based UNESCO who protects the world heritage.

Thank you my brother and see you soon.
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