defense minister: we need weapons to fight terror

[sahal80]

Al shabaab card perfectly works for the govt. I think he is in nairobi.

from may 2013: Abdulhakim Haji Faqi, Somalia's defense minister, discusses the threat posed by al-Shabab.
But Faqi said "logistical support" – including mobile units to help transport the troops to remote areas outside Mogadishu that are al Shabaab strongholds – would help them tackle the group. 
In an interview with Britain's Channel 4 News on Wednesday, Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud echoed Faqi's comments

NBC News
Somalia's defense minister made an international plea to aid its struggling government, saying it cannot fight the terrorist group behind Kenya's mall massacre without more funding and weapons from the global community.
"We are not looking at jet fighters. It’s small arms," Abdulhakim Haji Faqi told NBC News. "We need the funding and resources."
He warned that the attack on the Westgate mall should be a wake-up call illustrating that Somalia-based terror organization al Shabaab was now a “global problem.”
“We need to defeat them ideologically and militarily," Faqi said. "If we had more weapons, they would be less of a problem by now. ... The way to help is to fund the Somali government."

NBC News has learned that the terrorists stashed weapons inside the mall in advance of the attack, and had inside help getting into Kenya. NBC's Ron Allen reports.
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Faqi said there had been "lots of promises but no deliverance" from the West.
In March, the U.N. Security Council partially lifted an arms embargo on Somalia dating back decades so it could continue its fight againist al shabaab.
the Somali defense minister said his troops lacked the firepower to take on the al Qaeda-linked group and were relying on AK-47s similar to those used by the militants.
“We are underfunded. We don’t have the proper weapons to fight al Shabaab,” Faqi said. 
Faqi said the rampage targeting shoppers in Nairobi, in which at least 72 people were killed, showed why the international community needed to help his forces defeat al Shabaab.
“This attack on innocent people, women and children, shows the real nature of al Shabaab. They kill civilians,” he said. “It also underlines this is not just a Somali issue, but a global issue, and we all need to come together with a concrete plan and resources to combat [al Shabaab].”

From May 2013: Abdulhakim Haji Faqi, Somalia's defense minister, discusses the threat posed by al-Shabab.
But Faqi said "logistical support" – including mobile units to help transport the troops to remote areas outside Mogadishu that are al Shabaab strongholds – would help them tackle the group. 
In an interview with Britain's Channel 4 News on Wednesday, Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud echoed Faqi's comments.

[Casanova25]

The best move so far in my opinion

[Individual]

Anything for you Sahal! Great news Sahal, thanks brother!

[sahal80]

Thanks brother Individual

[Murax]

Honestly speaking lets quit the bullshid. Theres no weapons for the forseeable future, and AMISOM is gonna be around for a long time. Somalia is not like Iraq that had a standing army that was extremely well trained and equipped. The Ciidan Qaran in Somalia is basically the same tribal militias with ak47s with Gov uniforms. The troops in Gedo are the same Gedo militias, same with Hiiraan, same with Xamar, same with L Shabelle, Bay/Bakool, etc. Somalia laguma aaminaayo heavy weapons for a good long while.

[GIJaamac]

sahal

Why is Nicholas kay calling for more Amisom troops in Somalia ? Why the IC don't equip our army ??

[Casanova25]

sahal

Why is Nicholas kay calling for more Amisom troops in Somalia ? Why the IC don't equip our army ??

why do you wanna Waste your soldiers. let amisom die for our cause. the army is for later. do you want us to Waste lives on barawe.

let amisom Work in peace

[GIJaamac]

sahal

Why is Nicholas kay calling for more Amisom troops in Somalia ? Why the IC don't equip our army ??

why do you wanna Waste your soldiers. let amisom die for our cause. the army is for later. do you want us to Waste lives on barawe.

let amisom Work in peace

Fu*kin dumb nigga ! Amisom is here to fill their pockets as much as long as they can at the expense of our country. They don't care about al-shabaab. Xoolahaa tahay wasee.

[Casanova25]

sahal

Why is Nicholas kay calling for more Amisom troops in Somalia ? Why the IC don't equip our army ??

why do you wanna Waste your soldiers. let amisom die for our cause. the army is for later. do you want us to Waste lives on barawe.

let amisom Work in peace

Fu*kin dumb nigga ! Amisom is here to fill their pockets as much as long as they can at the expense of our country. They don't care about al-shabaab. Xoolo tahay was.

fuckin jareer.. get out of our affairs

[sahal80]

Honestly speaking lets quit the bullshid. Theres no weapons for the forseeable future, and AMISOM is gonna be around for a long time. Somalia is not like Iraq that had a standing army that was extremely well trained and equipped. The Ciidan Qaran in Somalia is basically the same tribal militias with ak47s with Gov uniforms. The troops in Gedo are the same Gedo militias, same with Hiiraan, same with Xamar, same with L Shabelle, Bay/Bakool, etc. Somalia laguma aaminaayo heavy weapons for a good long while.

I agree with you, they want firstly to change the army into a frofessional army. It depends on the govt like I said before they have to come up with a security programme and then tell them to train for them for example this number, get rid of the bad commanders and give the contracts to a foreing entities to stablish a coherent professional army.

Having said that, the govt can get arms from a friendly countries...now there is a relationship with italy who will be the first from the west to supply weapons to the govt.

Nevertheless, as al shabaab has shown having central agenda not only somalia they will atleast concentrate on the security forces more than ever before.

[original dervish]

Somalia already has an army.....it`s called Amisom.
The Kismayo fiasco has clearly demonstrated to the IC that Somali politicians can`t be trusted with weapons.

The political boss/ UN envoy and the Bantu soldier will run Somalia for decades to come.
Until we have a national unity Govt that represents the entire country......we are doomed.

Sahal......the IC are not interested in solving Somalia's terrorist problem.....only containing it.

[Murax]

Honestly speaking lets quit the bullshid. Theres no weapons for the forseeable future, and AMISOM is gonna be around for a long time. Somalia is not like Iraq that had a standing army that was extremely well trained and equipped. The Ciidan Qaran in Somalia is basically the same tribal militias with ak47s with Gov uniforms. The troops in Gedo are the same Gedo militias, same with Hiiraan, same with Xamar, same with L Shabelle, Bay/Bakool, etc. Somalia laguma aaminaayo heavy weapons for a good long while.

I agree with you, they want firstly to change the army into a frofessional army. It depends on the govt like I said before they have to come up with a security programme and then tell them to train for them for example this number, get rid of the bad commanders and give the contracts to a foreing entities to stablish a coherent professional army.

Having said that, the govt can get arms from a friendly countries...now there is a relationship with italy who will be the first from the west to supply weapons to the govt.

Nevertheless, as al shabaab has shown having central agenda not only somalia they will atleast concentrate on the security forces more than ever before.

Sahal,

Yea, You're right it was the lack of a security program to begin with that is the main issue. The former TFG admins from AY to Shariif, etc. were so inept that they would just hand Gov uniforms to the odayaal dhaqameed and some of these uniforms, guns would end up in the hands of burcad who would do stuff under the name of dawlad. Basically it became fowda. Now I heard some steps have been taken like for instance in Somalia theres some young men who went to school can read, write even finished university. I heard these people are not being recruited to the army as a officer with a salary of $500/month. This will give incentive for more diciplined people to join the army. Now the challenge for the Gov is to somehow get all of these ciidamo into 1 cohesive unit. That is why it was so important as part of the Addis agreement to make the ciidamo in those 3 regions Gov troops and the same for the other regions and eventually the faraway ones like Puntland, Somaliland. As a final step You can mix and match them like MSB used to do but this is probably like 100 years away

[Casanova25]

Somalia already has an army.....it`s called Amisom.
The Kismayo fiasco has clearly demonstrated to the IC that Somali politicians can`t be trusted with weapons.

The political boss/ UN envoy and the Bantu soldier will run Somalia for decades to come.
Until we have a national unity Govt that represents the entire country......we are doomed.

Sahal......the IC are not interested in solving Somalia's terrorist problem.....only containing it.

Keep dreaming we already have an army. SNA + SNP

You want videos?

plus everyday new unit is fully trained

[GeoSeven]

The partial lifting of the arms embargo is due for a review in 6 months, it WILL pass and it will be fully lifted. The SNA will be armed and trained reasonably by the end of next year.

Nichiolas Kay quickly called for the deployment of extra AU troops in response to the Shabaab spotlight because he knew the Somali government would capitalize on the Westgate attack and ask for the international community to assist the SNA with equipment etc etc. Mr Kay is a prick

[Casanova25]

Wake up to the reality Guys. everyday new units are fully trained and Mogadishu have gone military madness. thats for a fact and well known reality. but i don't think its smart to use them single handly to fight Al-shabaab. so why not use Amisom.

Amisom is in our interests Guys and i do not support them leaving somalia soon bc they are also training the soldiers. Turkey is also training the soldiers with EU and UN. I can proof all this, and i have posted all those on my threads