The Habar Gidirization of Lower Shabelle

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The Habar Gidirization of Lower Shabelle

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Lower Shabelle used to be a different place. A place where Barwaanis were 99% of Barawe, a place where D&M were the rulers of Walaweyne, etc etc. Indhacade may be gone but his kinsmen are still there

Has anyone seen the before and after pics of Barawe? Everyone is a dark Somali there, obviously HGs

Marka is majority HG now along with Barawe

Lower Shabelle is officially Hawiye degaan. Demographics have changed the reality


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AbdiJohnson wrote:Lower Shabelle used to be a different place. A place where Barwaanis were 99% of Barawe, a place where D&M were the rulers of Walaweyne, etc etc. Indhacade may be gone but his kinsmen are still there

Has anyone seen the before and after pics of Barawe? Everyone is a dark Somali there, obviously HGs

Marka is majority HG now along with Barawe

Lower Shabelle is officially Hawiye degaan. Demographics have changed the reality


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Lower shabelle were always a Hawiye country with Biiyomal. but biiyomal controlled that area for centuries.. the D&M had never anything to say about lower shabelle.. aswell the barawanis were only property for those 2 qabiil.. A barawani is viewed as a stranger in those regions and have always been viewed in that way. even the geledi WHO lives there which are part of D&M now are not somalis.
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marka is ceyr and dir city :dj:
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Shabellada Hoose waxaa leh Biyomaal Geledi Murusade Wacdaan :up:
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Shacabka Soomaaliyeed waxaan maanta bareeynaa Magaalada Markacadeey yaa dega ? sideese loo kala degaa?

Magaaladda Markacadeey waxay ka kooban tahay sedex xaafadood oo kala h ,Howlwadaag,Wadajir iyo Horseed:-

1- Xaafadda Howlwadaag waxaa dega Abgaal,Murusade Habargidir, Xawaadle iyo Shiiqaal.

2- Xaafadda Wadajir waxaa degan Daarood, Lixda cad cad iyo Lixda mad madow, oo loo yaqaano 12-ka Koofi.

3- Xaafadda Horseed waxaa degan Biyamaal ,Habargidir ,Ajuraan,Qubeys , Sure ,Jareer iyo xawaadle .,

If you need to know about the other cities in the region just ask and remember this is nearly a half 1mio-ppl city?

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^ Baraawe and Afgooye :?:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:^ Baraawe and Afgooye :?:
Demographics[edit]

Afgooye has a population of around 79,400 inhabitants.[7] The broader Afgooye District has a total population of 135,012 residents.[8]

Afgooye is inhabited by numerous Somali clans, as well as some ethnic minority groups. The Digil and Mirifle (Rahanweyn) sub-clans, the Wacdaan Cismaan sub-clan of the Mudulood, Loobage and the Gaaljecel and Garre are especially well represented + murusade and geledi...

Qoryooleey District... I will add this city because I have been there once :mrgreen:
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Qoryooley waa magaalo kutaala koonfurta Soomaaliya gaar ahaan Shabeellaha Hoose. degmadaan waxey ka kooban tahay sedex xaafadood oo kal ah hodan xalane iyo wadajir waxee caan ku tahay xoolaha beeraha, waxee soo saartaa Galeyda, Sisinta, Digirta. Tubaakada, Suufka, Cambaha, Yanyada, Canuuniga, Qasabka, bariiska iyo waxyaabaha kale oo la mid ah. Waxaa sidoo kale ay soo saartaa Caanaha geela iyo kuwa looda oo sida badan ka soo gala tuulooyin aan sidaa uga fogeyn, Ukunta, Subaga Lo'da iyo waliba maqaarka xoolaha oo sida badan loo soo dhoofiyo magaalada muqdisho meelo kalena uga sii gudba amaba inta lagu warshadeeyo waxyaabao kale laga soo saaro. Waxaa mara Degmada Qoryooley Wabiga shabeele oo inta badan looga faa'iideyso waraabinta beeraha, iyo waliba xoolaha, waxaa sidoo kale inta badan ee magaaladaasi ku soo wareega Canal weyn oo lagu magacaabo liibaan kaasoo ayba magac ahaan la qaadatey oo ah Liibaantii Qoryooley degmada Qoryoolay waxaa dago qabiil ahaan qomiyada Digil iyo mirifle iyo qabiiladan kale gaar ahaan sida 1-Garre 2-Jiido 3-bagedi 4-Xawadle 5-Habargidir 6-Abgaal 7-Sheqaal 8-Murusade 9 tuni 10 ma dhibaan


Barawe:

Biyomal, Tuuni, Barawanis, Xawaadle, Murusade, abgaal and Geeljecel..
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^You copied from wikipedia :lol:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:^You copied from wikipedia :lol:
yes.. 2 of them and added 2 Clans missing to afgooye. Barawe is made out of my knowlegde..

But hey the Qoryooleey one was fully correct aswell :up:
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The majority of lower shabeele are digil, hawiye arrived there in the 90s

Pre-90s

Before the civil war, lower shabeele was the second province after banaadir with most of districts-7 districts- all of them were except marka digil populations

Even the 12 koofi of marka are culturally related with the central banaadiri aka digil for example shimali ahmed shimali who is duruqba is from marka and he sings in af maay

Second clan was biimaal

Third clan were cadcads.

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sahal80 wrote:The majority of lower shabeele are digil, hawiye arrived there in the 90s

Pre-90s

Before the civil war, lower shabeele was the second province after banaadir with most of districts-7 districts- all of them were except marka digil populations

Even the 12 koofi of marka are culturally related with the central banaadiri aka digil for example shimali ahmed shimali who is duruqba is from marka and he sings in af maay

Second clan was biimaal

Third clan were cadcads.

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Brother Sahal your right on how it was before 90s during the peaceful times, but now it has different demography, as they say ''in war strong takes all, and then history is written by its victors'' in this case HG's CAYR takes all in S/Hoose unfortunately.
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sahal80 wrote:The majority of lower shabeele are digil, hawiye arrived there in the 90s

Pre-90s

Before the civil war, lower shabeele was the second province after banaadir with most of districts-7 districts- all of them were except marka digil populations

Even the 12 koofi of marka are culturally related with the central banaadiri aka digil for example shimali ahmed shimali who is duruqba is from marka and he sings in af maay

Second clan was biimaal

Third clan were cadcads.

Hawiye minorities
Abgaal, Murusade and Xawaadle are true ancient ppl of Lower Shabelle.. HG are the only new settlers. they are the majority now.
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Casanova25 wrote:
sahal80 wrote:The majority of lower shabeele are digil, hawiye arrived there in the 90s

Pre-90s

Before the civil war, lower shabeele was the second province after banaadir with most of districts-7 districts- all of them were except marka digil populations

Even the 12 koofi of marka are culturally related with the central banaadiri aka digil for example shimali ahmed shimali who is duruqba is from marka and he sings in af maay

Second clan was biimaal

Third clan were cadcads.

Hawiye minorities
Abgaal, Murusade and Xawaadle are true ancient ppl of Lower Shabelle.. HG are the only new settlers. they are the majority now.
Still they were minority.
Biggest hawiye clan in lower shabeele were gaaljecel from bali doogle to walawan you can find pure gaaljecel villages like leego.

Murursade, mudulood and hawadle had no one village, they were just living with the majorities in every place.
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sahal80 wrote:
Casanova25 wrote:
sahal80 wrote:The majority of lower shabeele are digil, hawiye arrived there in the 90s

Pre-90s

Before the civil war, lower shabeele was the second province after banaadir with most of districts-7 districts- all of them were except marka digil populations

Even the 12 koofi of marka are culturally related with the central banaadiri aka digil for example shimali ahmed shimali who is duruqba is from marka and he sings in af maay

Second clan was biimaal

Third clan were cadcads.

Hawiye minorities
Abgaal, Murusade and Xawaadle are true ancient ppl of Lower Shabelle.. HG are the only new settlers. they are the majority now.
Still they were minority.
Biggest hawiye clan in lower shabeele were gaaljecel from bali doogle to walawan you can find pure gaaljecel villages like leego.

Murursade, mudulood and hawadle had no one village, they were just living with the majorities in every place.
I don't know why peoples Habar Gidir phopia turned them blind from Hawiyes land! stupidity. I'm a Lower Shabellian and no one Shall I ask about where is my land.. Qoryooley is a Xawaadle Degan and have always been aswell + Marka iyo barawe..
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