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Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:12 pm
by MarsinQorahay
Qoomiyada Tigreega oo muddo 22 sanno ah Dalka Itoobiya soo xukumaysay illaa hadana Awooda Dalka gacanta ku haysa balse Geeridii Zenawi kadib Xilka Ra’iisul Wasaaraha wayday cadaadis ooga yimid Caalamka ayaa markalle Doorashada isku diyaarinaysa innay noqdaan RW Dalka.
Ra’iisul Wasaaraha Xukumada Itoobiya hadda haya ayaa ka soo jeeda Qoomiyad yar oo ka mid ah shacuubta Itoobiya balse raadinaya isbahaysi kalle oo qoomiyadaha kalle ah, sida Qoomiyada Axmaarada Iyo Oromada.
Dhanka Kalle, Hailemariam Deselam ayaa isaggu doonaya innuu awoodiisa Ciidanka balaadhiyo isagoo isbuucan dhexdiisa helay in uu kala badali karro Masuuliyiinta Ciidanka, sida Wargeyska Indian Ocean oo shaaciyay.
Siyaasiyiinta oogu cullus Qoomiyada Tigreega oo wali maamusha Ciidanka, Sirdoonka, Iyo Dhaqaalaha Dalka ayaa iyagu doonaya in doorshada Sannadka 2016 ay ku shubtaan oo ay helaan Xilka Madaxtinimo ee Dalka.
Labbo Masuul ayaa si weyn loo haddal hayaa, waana Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibada ee Itoobiya, Dr.Tedros Admonton Iyo Tewodros Hagos.
Khilaafka qofka noqon doona Melez Zenawi labaad ee Itoobiya ayaa Qoomiyada Tigreegu muddo dhex yaalay waxaana hadda go,aan sadeen in labadaas midkood xilka qaato isla markaasna la isku diyaariyo Xukunka.
Haddii la waayo Xukunkaas Qoomiyadda Tigreegu waxay aaminsan yihiin innay Itoobiya ka tashan doonaan Iyagoo Guud ahaan iskugu tagi doona Gobalka Tigrey ee ay daggaan.
If tigrays manage to screw up the election and oromos get's an caydiid-alike leader things can get ugly in Ethiopia, what is your view on this? my view is that if Ethiopia get's under chaos ONLF and Liyu police would probably form an military kind of Somali galbeed (( heard this from an liyu commander in jigjiga back in summer 2012 )) and close their borders, 1 either join the federal republic of Somalia if they get assistend or 2 form an own republic.
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:16 pm
by BuuloXubeey
I welcome for tension between the Oromos and the rest of Amhara/Tigray. This will be a joy for us Somalis both Soomali Galbeed and Somalia as we will both have less influence of the Ethiopian regime.

Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:18 pm
by MarsinQorahay
BuuloXubeey wrote:I welcome for tension between the Oromos and the rest of Amhara/Tigray. This will be a joy for us Somalis both Soomali Galbeed and Somalia as we will both have less influence of the Ethiopian regime.


Would Somalia assist the wslf under the chaos?
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:26 pm
by Even123
MarsinQorahay wrote:Qoomiyada Tigreega oo muddo 22 sanno ah Dalka Itoobiya soo xukumaysay illaa hadana Awooda Dalka gacanta ku haysa balse Geeridii Zenawi kadib Xilka Ra’iisul Wasaaraha wayday cadaadis ooga yimid Caalamka ayaa markalle Doorashada isku diyaarinaysa innay noqdaan RW Dalka.
Ra’iisul Wasaaraha Xukumada Itoobiya hadda haya ayaa ka soo jeeda Qoomiyad yar oo ka mid ah shacuubta Itoobiya balse raadinaya isbahaysi kalle oo qoomiyadaha kalle ah, sida Qoomiyada Axmaarada Iyo Oromada.
Dhanka Kalle, Hailemariam Deselam ayaa isaggu doonaya innuu awoodiisa Ciidanka balaadhiyo isagoo isbuucan dhexdiisa helay in uu kala badali karro Masuuliyiinta Ciidanka, sida Wargeyska Indian Ocean oo shaaciyay.
Siyaasiyiinta oogu cullus Qoomiyada Tigreega oo wali maamusha Ciidanka, Sirdoonka, Iyo Dhaqaalaha Dalka ayaa iyagu doonaya in doorshada Sannadka 2016 ay ku shubtaan oo ay helaan Xilka Madaxtinimo ee Dalka.
Labbo Masuul ayaa si weyn loo haddal hayaa, waana Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibada ee Itoobiya, Dr.Tedros Admonton Iyo Tewodros Hagos.
Khilaafka qofka noqon doona Melez Zenawi labaad ee Itoobiya ayaa Qoomiyada Tigreegu muddo dhex yaalay waxaana hadda go,aan sadeen in labadaas midkood xilka qaato isla markaasna la isku diyaariyo Xukunka.
Haddii la waayo Xukunkaas Qoomiyadda Tigreegu waxay aaminsan yihiin innay Itoobiya ka tashan doonaan Iyagoo Guud ahaan iskugu tagi doona Gobalka Tigrey ee ay daggaan.
If tigrays manage to screw up the election and oromos get's an caydiid-alike leader things can get ugly in Ethiopia, what is your view on this? my view is that if Ethiopia get's under chaos ONLF and Liyu police would probably form an military kind of Somali galbeed (( heard this from an liyu commander in jigjiga back in summer 2012 )) and close their borders, 1 either join the federal republic of Somalia if they get assistend or 2 form an own republic.
brother definitely its going to get ugly, ethiopia is like a ticking time bomb waiting to explode into mini nations (like USA stated, ethiopia will be uncontrollable and a failed state by 2030, and for certainty a fragmented nation)!,......TPLF and ELPF had a secret meeting in Dubai this week, where they were talking about (guess what, yes) future N and S Greater Tigray, TPLF knows brother that the end game for ethiopia is near and they have to make the decision to leave from the Ethiopian union now before its late and becomes a ethnic war ground (like Yugoslavia) and they will be the victim of genocide!
from all the facts on the ground shows that the OGADEN will be free independent nation within the span of TPLF regime or after, but how do you see it with your internal LIYO or other sources ???
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:27 pm
by BuuloXubeey
MarsinQorahay wrote:BuuloXubeey wrote:I welcome for tension between the Oromos and the rest of Amhara/Tigray. This will be a joy for us Somalis both Soomali Galbeed and Somalia as we will both have less influence of the Ethiopian regime.


Would Somalia assist the wslf under the chaos?
InshaAllah Somalia will and if not the people of Somalia will. Aslong Somalis become united. Thats key...unity!

Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:31 pm
by Even123
BuuloXubeey wrote:MarsinQorahay wrote:BuuloXubeey wrote:I welcome for tension between the Oromos and the rest of Amhara/Tigray. This will be a joy for us Somalis both Soomali Galbeed and Somalia as we will both have less influence of the Ethiopian regime.


Would Somalia assist the wslf under the chaos?
InshaAllah Somalia will and if not the people of Somalia will. Aslong Somalis become united. Thats key...unity! :u:
No most definitely will the Somalia Government and its people assist!!!,.....The reason its name is Somalia, is to unite all Somali race!

Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:35 pm
by Khalid Ali
Oromos cant do anything against the ruling TPLF the election is a farce to like in 2005 there will be some crack downs additionally Ethiopia is a country with strong monarchistic foundations so that it will disintegrate or that oromos will be ceded is just wishful thinking. Ethiopia and Ethiopians act very responsible its not like a country where every region or so can run away with their territory if things go wrong. Its very unlikely that there will be a power vacuum in Ethiopia waryaa marsin qoroxay you Ogadens were sleeping when EPLF and TPLF were making secret deals in their bunkers in Eritrea. You woke up when the Bug Eyed Tigre consolidated their power, in Ethiopia golden chances are rarely in that part of the world, intad dhaanteynaysan baa rag dunidi qeybsadeen

(Joke )
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:35 pm
by MarsinQorahay
There was this night i was having a little talk with a couple of friends of mines in Jigjiga, i was at their house and drinking coffee where we was talking about where meles zenawi have gone at that time meles was not announced dead but i knew he was dead a long time ago, they said they were scared that clashes would appear and chaos, that was the time when the liyu commander said that there was nothing to worry about even if ethiopia gets under chaos, liyus would close their borders right away and fight any amxaars. But the question is are Somalia going to assist the ONLF/WSLF or not, If yes then they should have an secretly meeting right before the ethiopian election.
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:45 pm
by MarsinQorahay
Khalid Ali wrote:Oromos cant do anything against the ruling TPLF the election is a farce to like in 2005 there will be some crack downs additionally Ethiopia is a country with strong monarchistic foundations so that it will disintegrate or that oromos will be ceded is just wishful thinking. Ethiopia and Ethiopians act very responsible its not like a country where every region or so can run away with their territory if things go wrong. Its very unlikely that there will be a power vacuum in Ethiopia waryaa marsin qoroxay you Ogadens were sleeping when EPLF and TPLF were making secret deals in their bunkers in Eritrea. You woke up when the Bug Eyed Tigre consolidated their power, in Ethiopia golden chances are rarely in that part of the world, intad dhaanteynaysan baa rag dunidi qeybsadeen

(Joke )
You never know what can happend, there has been rumours where tigrays had secret meetings on if they lose this election they will take away their little tigray region and form an republic. Oromos are the most footsoldiers, you never know what can happend if ethiopia gets under chaos, Oromos can easily take the large military equipment and fight against the amharas and tigrays with no problem at all. A question for you mister waqooyi, what would the state of Somaliland do if Ethiopia gets under chaos? would they assist the ethiopian regime or ONLF/WSLF for a new friend in the horn? you know politics can change.
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:52 pm
by Even123
MarsinQorahay wrote:Khalid Ali wrote:Oromos cant do anything against the ruling TPLF the election is a farce to like in 2005 there will be some crack downs additionally Ethiopia is a country with strong monarchistic foundations so that it will disintegrate or that oromos will be ceded is just wishful thinking. Ethiopia and Ethiopians act very responsible its not like a country where every region or so can run away with their territory if things go wrong. Its very unlikely that there will be a power vacuum in Ethiopia waryaa marsin qoroxay you Ogadens were sleeping when EPLF and TPLF were making secret deals in their bunkers in Eritrea. You woke up when the Bug Eyed Tigre consolidated their power, in Ethiopia golden chances are rarely in that part of the world, intad dhaanteynaysan baa rag dunidi qeybsadeen

(Joke )
You never know what can happend, there has been rumours where tigrays had secret meetings on if they lose this election they will take away their little tigray region and form an republic. Oromos are the most footsoldiers, you never know what can happend if ethiopia gets under chaos, Oromos can easily take the large military equipment and fight against the amharas and tigrays with no problem at all. A question for you mister waqooyi, what would the state of Somaliland do if Ethiopia gets under chaos? would they assist the ethiopian regime or ONLF/WSLF for a new friend in the horn? you know politics can change.
brother like i said SOMALIA will help ONLF/LIYU politically or militarily to consolidate the power in the Somali galbeed!,......and why are you asking a region (Waqooyi galbeed) when its sole authority Somalia will assist you, if your asking if somaliland is going to assist than you might as well ask Batman to assist you as NEITHER EXIST ONLY IN IMAGINATION

Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:55 pm
by MarsinQorahay
Even

it's just a question bro let the waqooyi guy answer.
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:09 pm
by Khalid Ali
Oromos might have the numbers but they are second players when it comes to the Amxaros even if oromo takes power if there is a power vacuum, the Amxaro is mentally socially politically stronger than the Oromo and they will be overwhelmed and they will lose power. Remember the Derg the Oromo generals staged the coup d'etat and later the Amxara Generals assassinated most of the oromo Generals from wololga. The same way the EPRDF cleansed the Amxara from the top commander ship of the Ethiopian army the last Amxara general was General Molla Hailemariam, he was fired in 2012. Tigre are a small ethnic group but they will be removed from power if they make the smallest error they cant afford miscue it will be fatal for them and they will not be able to recover.
Marsin qoroxay do not put all your hopes on the unreliable Galla. As for us in Somaliland or the isxaaq in Ethiopia, i dont know what steps we will take i wouldn't mind the Hawd and reserve area to be re united with the Somaliland republic. But the Isaaq elites in Hargeisa and those in Ethiopia, believe the Ogadens cannot be trusted one bit, i mean if we resolved our major difficulties and differences a jointly cooperation would create a win win situation, there are no permanent allies or permanent friends i personally would not mind to support the ONLF if we broadened this cooperation
Marsin Qoroxay you cant take the words of those Walanweyns who are guarded by Ethiopians and Ugandans they have no stake in Kilinka Somalida.
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:18 pm
by MarsinQorahay
That is an good enough answer, Hawd is not only settled by isaaq but daroods too, mind explaining how it would join up with Somaliland and what is this reserve area that you are talking about?
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:28 pm
by Khalid Ali
Hawd and reserved area are interlinked its one territory the territory the hawd was under the British Somaliland up to 1948 while the reserved area was under Menelik but the Isaaqs were allowed to water their camels a special arrangement. But the British gave our land away to Haile selassie The Hawd and the reserve area after 1948 we were not allowed to water camels on top of that after the Habaryoonis ogaden wars ended Danood. Emperor Haile selasie issued a statement that no Isaaq is allowed to pass beyond Danood.
Re: Ethiopian election 2016.
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:31 pm
by MarsinQorahay
The reserved area you're talking about, do you mind telling me the names of those districts?