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Violence, Herding, and the Eleven American Nations

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:26 am
by Grant
http://www.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fa ... -arms.html

The US can be divided into 11 separate "nations", all of which have different attitudes towards violence. The most violent are those whose economy is based on herding animals. (Somalis take note.)

"Continuing to treat the South as a single entity, Nisbett argued that the violent streak in the culture the Cavaliers established was intensified by the “major subsequent wave of immigration . . . from the borderlands of Scotland and Ireland.” These immigrants, who populated what I call Greater Appalachia, came from “an economy based on herding,” which, as anthropologists have shown, predisposes people to belligerent stances because the animals on which their wealth depends are so vulnerable to theft. Drawing on the work of the historian David Hackett Fisher, Nisbett maintained that “southern” violence stems partly from a “culture-of-honor tradition,” in which males are raised to create reputations for ferocity—as a deterrent to rustling—rather than relying on official legal intervention.

More recently, researchers have begun to probe beyond state boundaries to distinguish among different cultural streams. Robert Baller of the University of Iowa and two colleagues looked at late-twentieth-century white male “argument-related” homicide rates, comparing those in counties that, in 1850, were dominated by Scots-Irish settlers with those in other parts of the “Old South.” In other words, they teased out the rates at which white men killed each other in feuds and compared those for Greater Appalachia with those for Deep South and Tidewater. The result: Appalachian areas had significantly higher homicide rates than their lowland neighbors—“findings [that] are supportive of theoretical claims about the role of herding as the ecological underpinning of a code of honor.”"

Re: Violence, Herding, and the Eleven American Nations

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:25 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
You're about 50 years too late old man. The vast majority of Somalis are city-dwellers, that doesn't excuse their disposition towards violence and self-destruction.

Re: Violence, Herding, and the Eleven American Nations

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:34 pm
by Grant
:lol: Huh?

Try reading the article or at least looking at the map. Folks in Appalachia don't do much herding these days either. It's the mind set and the culture of the original settlers. I find the way he divides the country quite useful.
The patterns still follow. :up:

Re: Violence, Herding, and the Eleven American Nations

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:50 pm
by Alphanumeric
THE MIDLANDS. America’s great swing region was founded by English Quakers, who believed in humans’ inherent goodness and welcomed people of many nations and creeds to their utopian colonies like Pennsylvania on the shores of Delaware Bay. Pluralistic and organized around the middle class, the Midlands spawned the culture of Middle America and the Heartland, where ethnic and ideological purity have never been a priority, government has been seen as an unwelcome intrusion, and political opinion has been moderate. An ethnic mosaic from the start—it had a German, rather than British, majority at the time of the Revolution—it shares the Yankee belief that society should be organized to benefit ordinary people, though it rejects top-down government intervention.
Home.

Re: Violence, Herding, and the Eleven American Nations

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:47 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
:lol: then by your logic most of the world should have the same mentality, because they were herders at some point in history.

Re: Violence, Herding, and the Eleven American Nations

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:26 pm
by Grant
:whoo: You didn't read the article.

Re: Violence, Herding, and the Eleven American Nations

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:39 pm
by DisplacedDiraac
Clan

Violence

Scots

Somalis



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