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She calls him to wage a fierce dirty war againist his opponent
http://www.markacadey.net/news/mr-presi ... -hook.html

Brother Sahal , lets hope this man PM just steps down peacefully and saves the disgrace from himself and the Somalia nation.

read this interesting website, which has been circulating in an Ethiopian Political Forum;
http://www.tesfanews.net/somali-preside ... ara-group/

why should he step down? if we look back to the somali constitution saacid is in the right.

Of course ethiopia would like saacid to survive because if this happens his next cabinet would be a pro-ethiopian and now ethiopia is a part of amisom and plans to be the amisoms regional commanders for jubooyinka, gedo, bay and bakool and hiiraan.

This plan will make them put the regional governors under their direct hagemony instead of the central govt like it use to be with ahlusunna, bala bala

The speaker is secretly part of it

This is the reason why the interior minister has changed his hostile position towards hiiraan and seeks regional allies

Always ethiopia was asking to have ministers like ahmed abdisalam in the cabinet in exchange with kismayo but they rejected it many times.


Mps depand on money and there is a news that saacid has now money

The speaker is giving him more time.


BTW abdi xashara is the presidents political adviser for communities and international relations, works in the policy unit, he hails from khatumo or laas qorey.

When the president was new he use to give him info about the north to the point he suggested at a time to ignore the adminstartion and hold a conference for all the northern unionists in mogadisho about the fate of the north but dam jadid has rejected this bc they would earn more in the talks with the administration.

He is an old ambassador to the west.

I will be shocked if saacid gets through as he faces extinction. This lady is just calling him for qarxis speach in the parliament about his opponents "corruption"

There is some info says he is attending to do qarxis in his speach about "religious fanaticism"

If saacid was removed they will appoint a pm from a different corner than the speaker or associated with them.

Then no chance for ethiopia!

sahal80

im tellin u now, northern unionists aka traitors will fail bcos the i.c. now sees the two state solution as viable and inevitable and dam jadiid cant do anything

No chance for Ethiopia?.........This is why you are losing credibility.
Ethiopia has the strongest influence within Somalia, more than any other country.

The problem is with this Hag clique...they are dividing and thus weakening Somalia.
There is only one course of action that can save Somalia....reconciliation and unity.

The way these southerners are playing politics from inside a Ugandan tank is truly sickening.

original dervish wrote:No chance for Ethiopia?.........This is why you are losing credibility.
Ethiopia has the strongest influence within Somalia, more than any other country.

The problem is with this Hag clique...they are dividing and thus weakening Somalia.
There is only one course of action that can save Somalia....reconciliation and unity.

The way these southerners are playing politics from inside a Ugandan tank is truly sickening.

How ethiopia was away in a whole year? They even tried to pull out or did it in some regions!

For geopolitical reasons and for the sake of the horn integration ethiopia has changed towards the somali govt but they had a secret tactects wich is about to find out the political postitions and opinions inside the govt with gabre being on the line...thus, they infiltrated the govt.

Now if some of the govt were removed and get replaced with others who have closer views the executive administration will be one and the speaker will be forced to save his position though his role is not a big factor.

Remember this, I will also post some lines of another thread wich the savages have focked it up.
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dam jadids big dilemma
by sahal80 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:11 am

There is a shift in the political situation of the govt

The dam jadids political programe is facing a lot of obstacles as the speaker has become the opposite and the pm has now a considerable support from many groups that are againist the current political agenda

In the first year of this govt, the political tendence was based on the perspectives of dam jadid

Now the pm has benefited from the speakers strong position and has formed a galgaduud and southwest bloc

Its believed that there is an ethiopian hidden involvement in the baydhabo and gedo bloc and that is why the ethiopian backed gedo politician aw libaax who is more politically acknowledgeable is joining this bloc besides their associated central elements-ahlusunna and the camp of the pms wife who supported strongly her husband in this battle

Remember our old thread and the role the pm played in appointing the ethiopian backed ahmed abdisalam as the somali ambassador to ethiopia

Does this mean the pm is now in the ethiopian bloc? There is no yet an ethiopian bloc like it was in the old era but It explains how the pm was getting on so far!

After the speaker was threatened by his own bases, earlier this week, he held a meeting in his house between him, the president and the pm where he called for cooperation between the pm and him adding that every body knows its farah abdulkadir who is the real pm so he suggested a balance in there otherwise each leader have only the right to appoint the ministers that hail from his clan like it was in the old era!

Few days ago before the pms statement in the parliament, the idea of his resignation was running around their minds but they finally let him do the reshuffle-probably from a weak point- but now some of them have renewed their calls as the pm also wants to appoint his share of ministers!!

I don't think they can remove the pm now before creating a new political balance including the president rearranging his bases, he needs to do amendments in his staff that is dominated by his subclan also involving other groups that are not now on the table

Mps are essential to this political survive and saacid bloc was getting wider since they were busy with their financial priorities even farah abdulqadir instead of going back home with the president he travelled to england to prepare with the somalia GAS & OIL summit in london

A multi-meetings are going on about the reshuffle and other options, it depends on how the pms position is...some are saying he is doing this for gorgorton in order to save his seat but if he insists this he is playing with fire.!

Sahal yabbing as usual, war iska aamus. For every 100 prediction you made, only one comes true.

Naag baa qortay articlka

BigBreak wrote:sahal80

im tellin u now, northern unionists aka traitors will fail bcos the i.c. now sees the two state solution as viable and inevitable and dam jadiid cant do anything

any link to the IC? as far I know the only one who is involved is turkey and they are talking about building the bridge between the two sides!
eg turkish consulate in hargeysa "under the auspices of their embassy in mogadishu"

Btw, cosulate doesn't involve in the diplomatic relations rather in the services. I have been with a somali ambassador and asked him why some services are missing and he said to me that is the job of the consulate section and there is no one yet.


EDITE

Hegemony

sorry about the wrong spelling hagemony, error.

sahal80 wrote:

BigBreak wrote:sahal80

im tellin u now, northern unionists aka traitors will fail bcos the i.c. now sees the two state solution as viable and inevitable and dam jadiid cant do anything

any links of IC?


Even your president is much closer and is accepting many things under the hegemony of mogadishu...eg turkish consulate in hargeysa "under the auspices of their embassy in mogadishu"

Btw, cosulate doesn't involve in the diplomatic relations rather in the services. I have been with a somali ambassador and asked him why some services are missing and he said to me that is the job of the consulate section and there is no one yet.

Reality is different than the easy words!

This is only a temporary arangement andit will evolve into something more broad in the future.
The aim here is to get Taiwan like status for the time being, to do this we need to provide countries with incentives.
an oil discovery and production is one hell of an investment, and the return of the oil companies to somaliland is a big blow to unionists.
after a discovery it will be in the interests of turkey and UK to facilitate somalilands interaction with the rest of the world.
I am talking about passports, and trade insurance and credit.
If they dont want to take the plunge and recognize us outright they will find it easy to accept our passports, etc. all while saying somaliland is part of somalia.

gurey25 wrote:

sahal80 wrote:

BigBreak wrote:sahal80

im tellin u now, northern unionists aka traitors will fail bcos the i.c. now sees the two state solution as viable and inevitable and dam jadiid cant do anything

any links of IC?


Even your president is much closer and is accepting many things under the hegemony of mogadishu...eg turkish consulate in hargeysa "under the auspices of their embassy in mogadishu"

Btw, cosulate doesn't involve in the diplomatic relations rather in the services. I have been with a somali ambassador and asked him why some services are missing and he said to me that is the job of the consulate section and there is no one yet.

Reality is different than the easy words!

This is only a temporary arangement andit will evolve into something more broad in the future.
The aim here is to get Taiwan like status for the time being, to do this we need to provide countries with incentives.
an oil discovery and production is one hell of an investment, and the return of the oil companies to somaliland is a big blow to unionists.
after a discovery it will be in the interests of turkey and UK to facilitate somalilands interaction with the rest of the world.
I am talking about passports, and trade insurance and credit.
If they dont want to take the plunge and recognize us outright they will find it easy to accept our passports, etc. all while saying somaliland is part of somalia.

Call it what ever you like but your shaping into our sphere! That is a fact!

I know GENEL from turkey and ophir energy from uk are set to embark oil drilling in somaliland but these two countries are in favor of cooperation that ends into a unity or a north-south power sharing system in somalia.

sahal80 wrote:Call it what ever you like but your shaping into our sphere! That is a fact!

I know GENEL from turkey and ophir energy from uk are set to embark oil drilling in somaliland but these two countries are in favor of cooperation that ends into a unity or a north-south power sharing system in somalia.

This is looking that way because the turks and UK do not want to make a decision.
The talks reached an dead end they want to keep the fiction of progress and reconciliation alive.
The government cannot let this continue because people are already getting upset, there are calls from all parties in SL to cancel all cooperation.
The recognition issue is the only thing that will stir people up in somaliland, nobody cares about corruption or qabil that much.

The aim of the international community is to continue this nonesense indefinatley, if it is up to them there will be talks between SL and Somalia for the next 10 years,
discussing piracy and cooperation.

sahal80 wrote:Call it what ever you like but your shaping into our sphere! That is a fact!

How do you see further movement towards somalia?
this is as far as we can move, any further and it will destabalize the SL government and hurt chances of a reelection.
Kulmiye is guaranteed a re election why give this up?

sahal80 wrote:two countries are in favor of cooperation that ends into a unity or a north-south power sharing system in somalia.

true but they are not viable options because somaliland will not accept a subordinate position and certain clans are deathly against a north -south power sharing system because it will relegate them to a lower position of power politically.
Siilanyo can easily sell a north-south power sharing system to his people and you can get a united somalia overnight, but this will never be accepted by the south.

gurey25 wrote:

sahal80 wrote:Call it what ever you like but your shaping into our sphere! That is a fact!

I know GENEL from turkey and ophir energy from uk are set to embark oil drilling in somaliland but these two countries are in favor of cooperation that ends into a unity or a north-south power sharing system in somalia.

This is looking that way because the turks and UK do not want to make a decision.
The talks reached an dead end they want to keep the fiction of progress and reconciliation alive.
The government cannot let this continue because people are already getting upset, there are calls from all parties in SL to cancel all cooperation.
The recognition issue is the only thing that will stir people up in somaliland, nobody cares about corruption or qabil that much.

The aim of the international community is to continue this nonesense indefinatley, if it is up to them there will be talks between SL and Somalia for the next 10 years,
discussing piracy and cooperation.

Somaliland will be pulling the plug, the question is when?
They should not fear the consequences of pulling the plug, the aid we get is not important and does not affect the average person.
The only thing that could destablaize somalilands economy is another livestock ban from saudia, this was a nuclear bomb that nearly destroyed somalilnad,
and we only started recovering in the past 2 years, before the ban in 99 somaliland was undergoing a massive economic boom between 93 and 99.
thank god the Saudis have no interest in AU affairs, Somalia is a UN/AU trusteeship and the Saudis have no influence and no interest in it.

Even the one who banned them was the ethiopian agent ex somali pm ali geedi as an ex somali official for the livestock

we have many circles who are againist the talks too.

turkey is only after its islamic market interests/al souq al islamiya and to invest in your side too there must be a political stability not wars so that is why the talks... its a must!.