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Sad day in Croatia

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:33 pm
by AbdiJohnson
How can civil liberties and human rights be decided on by popular vote?

I am,

Abdi "This sets a dangerous precedent" Johnson
A majority of Croatians voted in a referendum Sunday to ban gay marriages in what is a major victory for the Catholic Church-backed conservatives in the European Union’s newest nation.

The state electoral commission, citing initial results, said 65 per cent of those who voted answered “yes” to the referendum question: “Do you agree that marriage is matrimony between a man and a woman?” About 34 per cent voted against.


The result meant that Croatia’s constitution will be amended to ban same-sex marriage.

The vote has deeply divided Croatia. Liberal groups have said the referendum’s question infringes on basic human rights. The Church-backed groups have gathered 750,000 signatures in its support.

The country of 4.4 million, which became EU’s 28th member in July, has taken steps to improve gay rights, but issues such as same-sex marriage remain highly sensitive in the staunchly Catholic nation.

The referendum was called by the “In the Name of the Family” conservative group after Croatia’s centre-left government drafted a law to let gay couples register as “life partners.”

The Catholic Church leaders have urged their followers to vote “yes” in the referendum. Nearly 90 per cent of Croatians are Roman Catholics.

“Marriage is the only union enabling procreation,” Croatian Cardinal Josip Bozanic said in his message to the followers. “This is the key difference between a marriage and other unions.”

Several hundred gay rights supporters marched in the capital, Zagreb, on Saturday urging a “no” vote.

“I will vote against because I think that the referendum is not a festival of democracy, but a festival of oppression against a minority, which fights for its rights and which does not have its rights,” Jura Matulic, a university student, said.

Croatia’s liberal President Ivo Josipovic said he will vote against amending the constitution.

“We don’t need this kind of a referendum,” Josipovic said. “Defining marriage between a man and a woman doesn’t belong to the constitution. A nation is judged by its attitude toward minorities.”

Prime Minister Zoran Milanovic said that “this is the last referendum that gives a chance to the majority to strip a minority of its rights.”

The EU hasn’t officially commented on the referendum, but has clashed with Croatia over some of its other laws, including an extradition law that has prevented its citizens from being handed over to the bloc’s other member states, which Croatia had to amend under pressure from Brussels.

Re: Sad day in Croatia

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:57 pm
by DonCorleone
Be a bit sympathetic to the majority vote, how do you think they could live with themselves or feel good had they not voted against this spawn of the devil.

I am,

hydro "the Pope......or was it Imam" gen

Re: Sad day in Croatia

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:00 pm
by Basra-
:? If I had the power, I would NOT allow gay marriages to happen. I would not judge them either. I will be very practical and logical as I am --ALWAYS. If I had power, I would propose a law decree that gay men should get married to lesbian women. They don't have to have sex with each other, although it would be great if they did, but they should ABSOLUTELY NOT have children together. (but they can adopt, provided they bring the child in a muslim correct way with compassion not to judge) Just live together as husband and wife. I truly believe in the power of DNA and BIOLOGY. Gays are born gay, and if they procreate by the power of "denial" ,gay parent or parents give birth to gay children. No ifs and Buts about it. But I also know it is a grave sin for men to lay together, or women to lick each other. :roll: Bottom line is---I would make it fashionable for lesbians and gay men to marry each other. I will emphasize in ISLAM, but in moderation, not fanaticism. Emphasis on being genuine MUSLIM and not political muslim. I would encourage compassion and kindness towards each other. Also encourage logic thinking and the development of Intelligence coupled with Faith, hand in hand. :stylin:

Re: Sad day in Croatia

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:15 am
by Innovative
Basra- wrote::? If I had the power, I would NOT allow gay marriages to happen. I would not judge them either. I will be very practical and logical as I am --ALWAYS. If I had power, I would propose a law decree that gay men should get married to lesbian women. They don't have to have sex with each other, although it would be great if they did, but they should ABSOLUTELY NOT have children together. (but they can adopt, provided they bring the child in a muslim correct way with compassion not to judge) Just live together as husband and wife. I truly believe in the power of DNA and BIOLOGY. Gays are born gay, and if they procreate by the power of "denial" ,gay parent or parents give birth to gay children. No ifs and Buts about it. But I also know it is a grave sin for men to lay together, or women to lick each other. :roll: Bottom line is---I would make it fashionable for lesbians and gay men to marry each other. I will emphasize in ISLAM, but in moderation, not fanaticism. Emphasis on being genuine MUSLIM and not political muslim. I would encourage compassion and kindness towards each other. Also encourage logic thinking and the development of Intelligence coupled with Faith, hand in hand. :stylin:

This is literally the most retarded thing I've ever read. You are too stupid to insult if you're actual serious. :shock:

Re: Sad day in Croatia

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:22 am
by Cherine
Basra- wrote::? If I had the power, I would NOT allow gay marriages to happen. I would not judge them either. I will be very practical and logical as I am --ALWAYS. If I had power, I would propose a law decree that gay men should get married to lesbian women. They don't have to have sex with each other, although it would be great if they did, but they should ABSOLUTELY NOT have children together. (but they can adopt, provided they bring the child in a muslim correct way with compassion not to judge) Just live together as husband and wife. I truly believe in the power of DNA and BIOLOGY. Gays are born gay, and if they procreate by the power of "denial" ,gay parent or parents give birth to gay children. No ifs and Buts about it. But I also know it is a grave sin for men to lay together, or women to lick each other. :roll: Bottom line is---I would make it fashionable for lesbians and gay men to marry each other. I will emphasize in ISLAM, but in moderation, not fanaticism. Emphasis on being genuine MUSLIM and not political muslim. I would encourage compassion and kindness towards each other. Also encourage logic thinking and the development of Intelligence coupled with Faith, hand in hand. :stylin:

There was this Psychologist who came on t.v who suggested that men who become women and women who become men should be encouraged to marry each other and that they are to be viewed as any hetrosexual couple.

Re: Sad day in Croatia

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:04 pm
by Basra-
Cherine


Guess what? :clap: I am a psychologist too. :stylin:



Innovative

Why insult? Tell me why u think my comments are 'retarded'? U can construct a sentence and a frame of argument, can u dear? :stylin:

Re: Sad day in Croatia

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:24 pm
by jamal9
Slave of Johnson is gay
Slave of Johnson is atheist

what qabil does this Slave of Johnson hail from?