Upgrading Nikah Misyar to a traditional nikah

[AbdiWahab252]

So I have a friend who met this interesting woman but isn't ready to commit to a traditional nikah. Both are broke at the moment due to being students. Yet they wanted to do a nikah misyar until at some point when their fortunes changed and families were more accommodating. Would it be possible to upgrade from nikah misyar to a traditional one in the future ?

This is directed to the learned scholars like Sheik Hyperactive (Xafidullah) and others.

[Hyperactive]

lol ader you just mixing up things. misyar means, when wealthy/ do well that gave up her rights to be supported and his right for sex time to when ever man can. so he is not obligated on anything.

so in the above case , you subscribing, either temporary marriage/ orfi/mot'ah.

in general role, anything wrong you can correct it. so if the marriage was unlawful, they can marry with correct requirements of islamic marriage.

[AbdiWahab252]

Hyper,

Okay adeer. Does the previous arrangement have to be revealed for the traditional one ? Do the families have to know ? None of them live near the couple.

[Hyperactive]

lol family has to know if you want halal. that is requirement of marriage. im with the qool, only 2 witnesses and wali at least. in my court, that what i do. i only ask two witness, wali for the female and i give them the marriage certificate. i dont require them to tell the world. but i suggest to tell the next door neighbour. just to spare them dambi of gossip.

[AbdiWahab252]

JazakAllah Adeer ! You are wise beyond your age. May you get ajar for helping the Somalinetters.

So another question, is Nikah misyar or mutah permissible ? Or is it flat out forbidden ?

[Hyperactive]

sunna, they have misyar, and is permissible for them, at least they legalize it . too cheesy for me and is personal dislike from my part. if woman comes to me and says , i dont mind occasional sex when ever he is around the town and i gave up my rights to be supported/ housing etc. who im to deny her! i have no legal authority to say no.

about mot'ah, i believe was halal in some point and was omit ! i read so many of those sahabah qools about it and i go with " was halal but later prophet omitted but some other part of arabia were practised cause not every one heard it until Omar's time. there was no communications like today. so i could believe it took several years until known! God knows best!

[AbdiWahab252]

Hyper,

Adeer, what is considered to be traveling ? Is there an established distance ? Would it be considered traveling if say he lives in near the city mall and she lives near bellagio ? Or do they need to be from two different separate cities ? I ask this with the case of the Misyar.

Jaza Allah,

Abdiwahab

[Hyperactive]

no, they can be in the same city.

but what im guessing saudis authorized it and was close to home issue for them, cause, for men who travel for business to not do zina( dont you feel is all about men and their need for sex, where ever they go) and secondly, for women who are passed age of preferable age marriage for men or almost there, to get some halal sex and they are wealthy and do not need man to support their live style and necessity.

[InaSamaale]

Abdiwahab252: Would you like to upgrade our commitments from the low-non committal-slightly-salacious and borderline dubious levels they're at to a more culturally appropriate, religiously obliging and socially appeasing level?

Some dumb-almost-wife-to-be: I thought you would never ask. Aaaww.

[salool]

Labo qaawan isma qaadan bay soomalidu ku maahmaahda.Nin tiisi cuslaysay maxaa naag oo so arkay mu iska soomo.

[waayeel101]

Misyaar waxa loo sameeyay wa gabdhaha waynaaday ee nin uun raba iskuna filan sida kale. the only difference between misyar nikah and traditional one is the girl make compromise on her basic right like "mabit & nafaqah" and sometimes waxa la isku qabayaa si qarsoodi ah that's all.

[Arabman]

So I have a friend who met this interesting woman but isn't ready to commit to a traditional nikah. Both are broke at the moment due to being students. Yet they wanted to do a nikah misyar until at some point when their fortunes changed and families were more accommodating. Would it be possible to upgrade from nikah misyar to a traditional one in the future ?

Does your friend happen to be named AbdiWahab252, also a member of Snet? Mr. Beendiid, fear Allah and stop trying to find loopholes for your indiscretions.

[AbdiWahab252]

Arabman. This is for a friend. Plus zina avoidance should be welcomed