The Khaatumo argument against somaliland.

[X.Playa]

1-They claim that since they didn't sign a treay with the British they are not part of Somaliland.

2-When they go deep into their fantasy they claim they were part of Dervish-land and their emperor was Ina Carro a.k.a The Mad Mullah and only after the destruction of their Taleex empire did they have became a British subjects by force not by choice.

But my question is , is or was somaliland based on the 1881-1889 tribal treaties ???

My second question to the Isaaq is, do we claim that dhulos/Warsangali are part of Somaliland as people or do we argue that the eastern territory are part of somaliland as a territory regardless what these clan believe.?

My third question is , Do you think its wise to change the historical borders of Somaliland and let these Daarood go join Puntland?? and what effect that might have on future somaliland clans both the Isaaq and gedabursi.?

[HusseinHassan]

1-They claim that since they didn't sign a treay with the British they are not part of Somaliland.

2-When they go deep into their fantasy they claim they were part of Dervish-land and their emperor was Ina Carro a.k.a The Mad Mullah and only after the destruction of their Taleex empire did they have became a British subjects.

But my question is , is or was somaliland based on the 1881-1889 tribal treaties ???

My second question to the Isaaq is, do we claim that dhulos/Warsangali are part of Somaliland as people or do we argue that the eastern territory are part of somaliland.?

My third question is , Do you think its wise to change the historical borders of Somaliland and let these Daarood go join Puntland?? and what effect that might have on future somaliland clans both the Isaaq and gedabursi.?

abdiweli and ina camay are not in office for 24 hours and they already got x.playa shitting on his pants, asking questions he never asked, trying to seek the truth
brings me back to this poem

Iidoor sal fududaa wuxuu sugayo muu dhawro.

[X.Playa]

abdiweli ina cami?? what is that a food or a drink, never heared of them.

[samatar133]

The silliest of ideas is to entertain to change our historic borders and to give up parts of our land to other countries.
Not one inch of our country will be ceded to Somalia. We will either have all Somaliland or none, no compromise between those two.

[X.Playa]

Even entertaining that idea itself is suicide and sadly most Isaaq elites have no problem with it at all.

[SultanOrder]

Most Isaaq's have no problem at all with it because it is based on reality. Somalia has more right to Somaliland than Somaliland will ever have to Bari.

[Meyle]

The British signed treaties with the coastal tribes so the whole argument that they didn't sign because they didn't want to, is invalid.


As Samatar said its either all of SL or none of it.

[X.Playa]

Most Isaaq's have no problem at all with it because it is based on reality. Somalia has more right to Somaliland than Somaliland will ever have to Bari.

How so and based on what right??

[Meyle]

Most Isaaq's have no problem at all with it because it is based on reality. Somalia has more right to Somaliland than Somaliland will ever have to Bari.

So former Somalia Italiana has more right to former British Somaliland than former British Somaliland got to Sool and Sanaag?

[Hodan94]

Why is the harti gettting hyped up over their new tribal boqor abdiweli? Lets see what this 'educated' guy as his fellow cousins say can acheive....a piece of paper doesnt always make you competent in this particular job.
I say congrats to him, but he better be carefull with his attitude towards both somaliland and somalia government

[samatar133]

Even entertaining that idea itself is suicide and sadly most Isaaq elites have no problem with it at all.

I am not aware of SL elites entertaining that kind of idea. I am sure that a reunion with Somalia, unthinkable at the moment, is more acceptable to the relevant elites than diving Somaliland.

[PrinceDaadi]

I normally do support SL leaving the union because I always advocate people should have the right to their destiny! now assuming that Sool and eastern sanaag are part of SL(which they r disputing but for argument sake) and they want not to be with SL, dont they have same rights which Allowed SL to leave the union?

[X.Playa]

No they don't , no tribe has the right in Africa to seced. A territory yes given a historical legal argument , but just because they happened to be Daarood that hate Isaaq that doesn't give them any unique right in Africa to change colonial borders.

[original dervish]

If there is ever to be an international border between Somalia and "somaliland", it will be between iidoor & Dhulbahante.
PS We are not just fighting for ourselves to remain in Somalia....we're also fighting to make sure the iidoor don't secede.

[X.Playa]

You can live in that fantasy and wobble in it merrily like a donkey in a dustbath, facts and history says otherwise. There in Africa colonial borders are sacrossanct there is nothing can be changed . The Dhulbahnate will not and cant make a new precedents.