Last Japanese Soldier.....

[skywalker25]

I was reading this news about the last Japanese soldier to surrender and how he refused even when asked to by family members, only surrendering once his superior who gave him the order returned..
Now this story made me think about whether a Somali person could have even a fraction of this mans dedication to his home land and would be bound by duty to carry out this type order even as a single individual. Maybe we are not mature enough as people considering the Japanese are around 200 mill and Somalis 20 mil.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 66288.html

[quark]

I was just reading this a min ago on cnn.com. The man was a dedicated soldier and as for a somali doing this...

[ToughGong]

lollllllz ninkani sheep buu ahaa nimanyaho
My moto 'Never be a sheep be a Shepherd"

[AbdiJohnson]

You're talking about a people who brag about looting other another kinmen's camels, call for the genocide of a brother clan when they dare enter their territory to get water from a well and boast about the number of slaves their granddaddy used to own

I am,

Abdi "A Somali's loyalty and love only extends to himself" Johnson

[GeoSeven]

Psyche and culture. The Japanese soldier was the product of the Bushido code, a hallmark of his culture which stressed on honor and loyalty, coupled with the religious belief and duty to worship an Emperor who embodied Japan and everything it stood for. Not to mention the fact that they already had and eon long culture of class collaboration which made modern professional militarism relatively easy. Basically, they had in place a system from which to harness people with the right set of mind and make for national duty.

Us? Although there's an overwhelming sense of identity, we're nomads, individualistic and fiercely independent. Born and bred into chaotic order. The Japanese have a cultural edge over us when it comes to cohesive soldiering.

With some training, Somalis are more than capable adapting to professional militarism, were actually quite good at it. In the 70's, Ciidanka Soomaaliyeed was arguably the most disciplined in all of Africa. Not as fanatical or zealous as the Japanese perhaps but professionally disciplined nonetheless.

[Colonel]

If the US didn't drop those nukes on Japan their army would have got decimated

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

If only I had an army comprised of such men...

[LeJusticier]

Very intersting indeed. 29 years in the jungle...refuses to surrender and killed 30 people during his strugle.

[Gabre]

The amazing thing is this was not a unique case. When the Japanese Empire spread all over Oceania and east Asia, their troops were sprinkled on a lot of remote islands. They'd get propaganda radio messages to demoralize them from America, saying that Japan had surrendered. When America nuked Japan into submission, many didn't believe it was true or the news never reached them and kept loyal to their posts for weeks, months, and years after the war ended. The next generation of American GIs encountered some of them still fighting in the Vietnam War decades later for the Viet Cong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout

[skywalker25]

Biko, you have been crying for my attention for a week so I will answer your question once and for all. No I will not bust my nut in your mouth. All this duff your speaking of is a code word for can I have your seaman, so keep it moving...

[Alphanumeric]

If the US didn't drop those nukes on Japan their army would have got decimated

Openly immoral, psychotic, genocidal, war junkies bent on global domination through the slaughter of tens of millions within the span of a couple years?

Nope, I'd much rather have the lying schemers who'll smile at your face but plan behind your back.

[SultanOrder]

Quite stupid, shows how brainwashed they were.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Quite stupid, shows how brainwashed they were.

As opposed to faarax Jaamac who would leave his post as soon as he saw an Ethiopian soldier/a truck full of qaad/a defenceless female he could rape?

[SultanOrder]

The mark of a good soldier is not one that will endlessly obey an order given to him a long time ago. Order are as good as they are useful, if you are given the order to guard this area but there is no friend or foe for years to come, what the Fuck are you doing? Thankfully the majority of Japanese soldiers surrendered at first opportunity.

A soldier that can use his own intelligence or exert some kind of Independence when circumstances demand it is only good to put in the frontlines.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

The mark of a good soldier is not one that will endlessly obey an order given to him a long time ago. Order are as good as they are useful, if you are given the order to guard this area but there is no friend or foe for years to come, what the Fuck are you doing? Thankfully the majority of Japanese soldiers surrendered at first opportunity.

A soldier that can use his own intelligence or exert some kind of Independence when circumstances demand it is only good to put in the frontlines .

No. That's an officer. Soldiers are taught to obey. Resourcefulness, determination, thinking outside the box are all secondary to his ability to obey orders. An army marches on it's stomach, but it's backbone is discipline.