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Syrian rebels : We Will Not allow Democracy video

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Disgusting Democracy must not be allowed in Syria :up:
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After what we've witnessed in Egypt, the West colluding with the Egyptian junta and approving the coup against the democratically elected government, there's no point in going through a democratic process.
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How do they intend on selecting their leader then? Arm wrestling? Or perhaps the good old fashioned way of killing all your rivals until only you are left?

The irony of this is they selected their leader through democracy (voting). That's what democracy is, voting for things, you know, the way humans have decided things from the beginning of time?

How does anyone take these morons seriously, I don't get it. Since when did "democracy" become a euphemism for "western style government".

The alternative to democracy is feudalism, in other words what Syria has now, so if they hate democracy what are they rebelling against exactly? Perhaps they aren't actually rebels and just want to install a new dynasty, that dynasty being themselves?
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James Dahl wrote:.....
how many babies have been brutally destroyed in your barbaric country (norway i think) today without any one batting an eye, you nordic barbarian?

that - the brutal destruction of millions of babies a year, among other things - is democracy for you. it isnt merely procedure on how to elect a leader(s) - it's an ideology (attaining most of its current form in the french revolution), that comes with certain demands and obligations that must be met to be considered a democratic society. for example, pakistan elects its leadership by popular vote by it isnt considered a democracy. why? because the ideology is missing.
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ModerateMuslim wrote:
James Dahl wrote:.....
how many babies have been brutally destroyed in your barbaric country (norway i think) today without any one batting an eye, you nordic barbarian?

that - the brutal destruction of millions of babies a year, among other things - is democracy for you. it isnt merely procedure on how to elect a leader(s) - it's an ideology (attaining most of its current form in the french revolution), that comes with certain demands and obligations that must be met to be considered a democratic society. for example, pakistan elects its leadership by popular vote by it isnt considered a democracy. why? because the ideology is missing.
So for you, Democracy = Aborting Babies? :? You realize a number of western democracies are rabidly anti-abortion (such as Ireland, Spain, Poland, Argentina, Chile, Brazil, etc) Chile's anti-abortion laws are stricter than Saudi Arabia's. You have basically been conned into giving up your own rights to decide your country's fate by hucksters telling you democracy = abortion and gays. They don't want you to have a vote, THEY want all the power.

Democracy literally means rule by the masses, basically that the people decide who is the leader. Ideology of the resulting government does not make it democratic or undemocratic.
A state that is controlled by a small number of cadres like the Soviet Union, Vatican City or Iran are an "Aristocracy" the "Rule by the Best". Naturally they decide who the best are. This is sometimes called an oligarchy, though it doesn't really fit to call an Ayatollah or a Soviet Cadre an oligarch. In many respects, America is actually somewhat oligarchical in that rich people have an overwhelming grip on power, and is in many respects a bad example of a functional democracy.
The step up from an aristocracy is a monarchy, the "Rule of One", basically a hereditary monarch where only he decides who will succeed him. Officially there aren't many of these left, Saudi Arabia, Bhutan, Swaziland, Oman and Brunei are openly monarchies.

In reality there are a lot of monarchies that pretend to be democracies; Equatorial Guinea, Syria, Azerbaijan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, North Korea, Gabon and Togo are essentially Kingdoms in All But Name.
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you're an naive fool who's confusing elections with democracy, you nordic barbarian. ask any democrat if you can have democracy if a woman isn't "in control of her own body" - whether that means, out of her own will, choosing who to vote for or "aborting a parasite inside her body" (ie murdering a defenseless human being in an unspeakably brutal way). if a woman is enslaved, and not free to choose for own herself, how can there be democracy, which starts with self-ownership? so it goes, according to democrats.

this is the basic muslim objections to democracy, ie God has been taking out of the equation in favor of man.
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ModerateMuslim wrote:you're an naive fool who's confusing elections with democracy, you nordic barbarian. ask any democrat if you can have democracy if a woman isn't "in control of her own body" - whether that means, out of her own will, choosing who to vote for or "aborting a parasite inside her body" (ie murdering a defenseless human being in an unspeakably brutal way). if a woman is enslaved, and not free to choose for own herself, how can there be democracy, which starts with self-ownership? so it goes, according to democrats.

this is the basic muslim objections to democracy, ie God has been taking out of the equation in favor of man.
Well in that case, let's abandon the concept of democracy, instead let us adopt a new and fantastic ideology called votingism
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James Dahl wrote:Well in that case, let's abandon the concept of democracy, instead let us adopt a new and fantastic ideology called votingism
Democracy doesn't work for Muslims (there's no example Muslim country where it works); they have their own way. You and your beesha shouldn't interfere in their way.
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Arabman wrote:
James Dahl wrote:Well in that case, let's abandon the concept of democracy, instead let us adopt a new and fantastic ideology called votingism
Democracy doesn't work for Muslims (there's no example Muslim country where it works); they have their own way. You and your beesha shouldn't interfere in their way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_democracy

"Islamic democracy refers to a political ideology that seeks to apply Islamic principles to public policy within a democratic framework. In practice, there are three kinds of political systems in the Muslim-majority countries today; the basis of the distinction between them has to do with how comprehensively Islam is incorporated into the affairs of the state:[1]

A democratic secular state, such as Azerbaijan and Turkey, that does not recognize any religion as its state religion and, therefore, does not incorporate religious principles into its public policy and other state affairs.
A democratic nation state that recognizes Islam as its state religion and a source of legislation, such as Malaysia and Maldives. The application of religious principles into public policy varies from country to country, since Islam is not the only source of law.
A theocratic state that endeavors to institute Sharia, in full force,[1] and offers more comprehensive inclusion of Islam into the affairs of the state. Presently, Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania and Pakistan are the only examples of an Islamic state in the form of Islamic republics.

Not all of these states are recognized internationally as democratic under concepts of liberal democracy. There are also states in the Muslim world which are secular democracies rather than religious democracies.

The concepts of liberalism and democratic participation were already present in the medieval Islamic world.[2][3][4] The Rashidun Caliphate is perceived by its proponents as an early example of a democratic state and it is claimed that the development of democracy in the Islamic world eventually came to a halt following to the Sunni–Shia split.[5]"
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James thinks they have a thing called "democracy" that really works in the west :lol: :lol:
You people have an oligarchy not democracy
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James and Grant you're smater than that guys. Democracy is a joke when it comes to Muslim countries, we've all seen what happens when Islamists win the election (Algeria, Gaza, Egypt, Tunisia).
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Funny thing is that all of you live in Democratic nations, now go back to your caves.
Islamic state will thrive under the Sufis/Sunnis and not radical Salafis
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Grant "islamic democracy " is an oxymoron.
James thinks that democracy is just about voting for your leader, there is nothing wrong with that, the thing is that democracy is an ideology that carries allot of things that are against the ethos of islam.
number one being secualrism, we do not place gods law and the law made by people on the same level.
Shreeca is always above all, and all other laws like those made by a legislative branch or even common law/traditional laws must conform to shareeca.

There is nothing wrong with voting and choosing your leader, but make no mistake,
islam and democracy are not compatible, to be truly democratic you would have to discard things seen as "unnecessary superstitions"
i.e religion like what was done in the west. and all this talk of "secularism".

saying all that i would chose democractic kafirs over those imbeciles and animals in syria any day now.
they have no idea what islam is or what democracy is, they do not know what they want or what they are doing,
they are nihilists of the first order.
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Thuganomics wrote:James thinks they have a thing called "democracy" that really works in the west :lol: :lol:
You people have an oligarchy not democracy

Its the natural progression of a democracy, the end result is oligarchy.
The US and Europe are clearly oligarchies in all but name.
there are hold outs like switzerland which is the closest thing to democracy.
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