Somalia will have 6 Federal States

[Sagaashan]

The Federal reality of Somalia has sunk in deep and wide. As hutus scramble for gobols to dominate and rule, the impeccable footprint of a federated union is undeniable. I believe Somalia will have this 6 federal states:

1. Puntland
2. Somaliland
3. Jubaland- Must safely secure Gedo and Jubada Dhexe from sinister plots from the genocidaires.
4. S/W state- The pipe dream of 6 states will be the laughing stock of the nation for a while.
5. Shabelle State-no matter how we sugar coat it, Shabeelloyinka will be a hawiye centered state. Armaan will never gather enough force and might to stop the hawiye storm
6. Central state-another reality, Sade cannot block a hawiye federal state here, they will become gudoomiyaha baarlamaanka

-Hiiraan will be forced with either Shabelle state, or central state. Since Hiiraan has more in common and connections to Xamar, it will probably lean towards that side than Mugdi Mudug central state.

As for Banaadir, it will be the partying center of Amisom for the next decade. More Mogadishu Jams

[Colonel]

Makes sense

[HusseinHassan]

what's the relationship like between the southern dir and rahanwein?

[BigBreak]

u mean 5 states, is a separate country like djibouti. check ur history next time

[gurey25]

this is why they will never get anywhere, you have to involve unattainable goals like somaliland instead of focusing on your real problems.
what they dont realise is that even in the most dismal fantasy where somaliland is invaded and defeated, the end result will be an autonomous state
never a federal state.

[Sagaashan]

what's the relationship like between the southern dir and rahanwein?

Nothing to cordial. The 6 gobol is based more on dominance and qabiil affiliation than equitable power sharing formula. They believe all the lands they claim is D/M regions

[HusseinHassan]

2 and more regions can make up a federal state. the d/m already have 2 (bay and bakool) thus they form their federal state.
but considering the recent war between dir and hawiye, i thought dir would take their lower shabelle and join bay and bakool.
can lower shabelle be divided into two regions?

[Sagaashan]

u mean 5 states, is a separate country like djibouti. check ur history next time

When you have your flag amongst the free nations, and please don't post a photo shopped Somaliland flag as proof

[Sagaashan]

this is why they will never get anywhere, you have to involve unattainable goals like somaliland instead of focusing on your real problems.
what they dont realise is that even in the most dismal fantasy where somaliland is invaded and defeated, the end result will be an autonomous state
never a federal state.

Sxb Somaliland is a hotchpotch of contradictions: the country is named after the same entity it wants to dissociate with, it denies other minorities the same rights it wants to enjoy, and many other things that no other country wants to unravel. The best Somaliland will get is the status quo. Its amazing for a man who believes a nonexistent entity as country to talk about fantasy and unattainable goals

[Sagaashan]

2 and more regions can make up a federal state. the d/m already have 2 (bay and bakool) thus they form their federal state.
but considering the recent war between dir and hawiye, i thought dir would take their lower shabelle and join bay and bakool.
can lower shabelle be divided into two regions?

Dir having the ability to choose sides

Sxb the only way Shabeelada hoose can be part of S/W state is if Ethiopia forces it and uses their might to enforce it. The man who is gudoomiyaha Shabeelada Hoose spends more time in Xamar than he will ever in Marka. I doubt Ethiopia wants to expend such political capital on one region and inspire Tarsan to lead 'Anti-Ethiopian' marches in London. Also remember the S/W is an expansionist idea not based on reality, whoever came up with such a lunatic idea either wants to shrink the D/M population through constant war or was drunk.

Dividing regions is unimaginable, its the furthest thing any sane politician will attempt. Its only possible for administrative purposes after a federal state is officially recognized (eg Puntland carving Karkaar from Bari), but not for the intent to become a federal state.

[HusseinHassan]

sagaashan, if you think about it, we somalis created the borders between the regions inside somalia and not the europeans . i think those borders can be altered and changed to create solution. mudug is divided into south mudug (hawiye) and north mudug (darod). sanaag is divided into west sanaag (isaaq) and east sanaag (darod). if mudug and sanaag are divisible so can any other gobol.

[Sagaashan]

I know but do you know how many federal states we gonna have if we let Hiiraan divide into two, and do the same for Shabeelooyinka. It defeats the purpose of federal states, every single region will become a federal state. it will open can of worms.

The Galmudug side of Mudug is little bit problematic since its doesn't affect Puntland so much as it has 2+ sold regions.

[gurey25]

this is why they will never get anywhere, you have to involve unattainable goals like somaliland instead of focusing on your real problems.
what they dont realise is that even in the most dismal fantasy where somaliland is invaded and defeated, the end result will be an autonomous state
never a federal state.

Sxb Somaliland is a hotchpotch of contradictions: the country is named after the same entity it wants to dissociate with, it denies other minorities the same rights it wants to enjoy, and many other things that no other country wants to unravel. The best Somaliland will get is the status quo. Its amazing for a man who believes a nonexistent entity as country to talk about fantasy and unattainable goals

you have anon existing entity, a pig is pig even if you put lipstick on it and a dress.
We are a real state on the ground where it counts and you are a paper state.
ill take reality anyday over fantasy.

keep us out of your discussions.

[SecretAgent]

4 hawiye states, hiiraan,banadir,galmudug,lower sh, middle sh state

[BigBreak]

http://www.heritageinstitute.org/wp-con ... NGLISH.pdf