Christians and Churches in Somalia I AM FOR INCLUSIVENESS

[watchmenow]

I want Somalia to be inclusive of all people including Christians to worship openly. Enjoying a normal life outside of Somalia where all types of people of all walks of life live peacefully and integrated together; I want the same for Somalia. Christianity is the biggest religion in the world and churches like mosques should be openly built for people who are Christian. As well as other faiths. We have enjoyed progression, so do people in Somalia deserve that right too. Faith, education and lifestyles should be inclusive and not exclusive. I would like to build a church in Mogdhushio even though I am not Christian. So I can make an example for the good people of Somalia.

[Arabman]

I don't see why Somalia should have churches. I mean, Christianity is a dying religion (at least in the West), as most of its adherents have become atheists, agnostics, deists, etc. Besides, there's no freedom of religion (particularly when it come to Islam) in the West. For instance, a Muslim cannot legally marry more than 1, but can have as many mistresses and father as many illegitimate children. What kind of logic is that?

[watchmenow]

There will be churches and temples in Somalia. You can't stop it. Inclusiveness or hid under a rock in the tasmanian sea.

[STARKAST]

Arabman there are 100's of Mosques in USA why cant there be 1 Church in Somalia.

The Mogadishu Cathedral and others should be renovated to their former glory.

[AbdiJohnson]

There were 2,016 mosques in the United States as of 2012, and tens of thousands throughout the Western World whereas you can count the amount of churches in Muslim countries with your left hand. Not very fair. Somalia should and will allow Somali Christians to build their own churches. I don't like hypocrisy. Let temples, scientology centers and whatever be built too.

Arabman, marrying a second or third or fourth wife is not mandatory in Islam and is only an option in extreme cases so you lose

I am,

Abdi "I support polygamy to be legalized" Johnson

[Arabman]

Arabman there are 100's of Mosques in USA why cant there be 1 Church in Somalia.

The Mogadishu Cathedral and others should be renovated to their former glory.

USA's constitution allows building mosques; I don't think Somalia's constitution allows building churces. At least HSM's constitution doesn't allow it.

Arabman, marrying a second or third or fourth wife is not mandatory in Islam and is only an option in extreme cases so you lose

It's evident Muslims can practice Islam more in Muslim countries than in the West. In the West, you go to jail if you marry more than 1, but no one touches you if you've 50 mistresses and father 100 illegitimate children.

[AbdiJohnson]

Polygamy is not legal in the West due to (modern) Judeo-Christian principles that they adopted a very long time ago. Obviously the laws haven't changed because polygamy is virtually unpracticed. Polygamy doesn't cross anyone's mind. The polygamists aren't demanding change. It's like they dont exist. And besides, depending which Western country you live, polygamists are ignored. Not thrown in jail.

And no, Muslims have more rights to practice in the West. Shias are not safe in Iraq (where they make the majority), KSA, Syria, etc. Ahmadiyyas are not safe anywhere, especially in Pakistan. Sufis are not safe in most countries, including Somalia. Even Sunnis in general are not safe in Sunni countries. There are many interpretations within Sunnism. Believe in the wrong one and youre a dead man. Ex: Shabab

I am,

Abdi "The West is safer for Muslims than Muslim countries" Johnson

[guhad122]

Arabman there are 100's of Mosques in USA why cant there be 1 Church in Somalia.

The Mogadishu Cathedral and others should be renovated to their former glory.

USA's constitution allows building mosques; I don't think Somalia's constitution allows building churces. At least HSM's constitution doesn't allow it.

Arabman, marrying a second or third or fourth wife is not mandatory in Islam and is only an option in extreme cases so you lose

It's evident Muslims can practice Islam more in Muslim countries than in the West. In the West, you go to jail if you marry more than 1, but no one touches you if you've 50 mistresses and father 100 illegitimate children.

Arabman; you represent everything wrong our thinking and logic. Muslims enjoy the greatest freedom in practicing their religion in the US than many so called Muslim countries. Case in point, when it is a praying time, you get whipped in Saudi Arabia if you don't go to the mosque regardless of your situation; health, work, and so on. They abuse and literally slave minorities and non-Arabs. Every single day hundreds of Somalis illegally deported from Saudi Arabia and other gulf states are thrown at Muqdisho despite the dangers they face. Come on my friend, use common sense. Your whole argument is based on that fact that the constitution of most Western countries forbids polygamy. I would rather accept that and live with that than being called Cabiid in Maka and Madiina. Few months ago, a full bus of young little Somali girls stolen from the suffering Somalia refugees in Yemen was captured by some Western NGO. The oldest girl was 12 years old and the filthy and pedophile Arabs wanted to sexually abuse these girls and enslave them.
Today there are thousands of non muslims in Somalia; many of them working for NGO organizations and they should have the right to open their worshiping locations without the fear of any religious persecution.

[GeoSeven]

Cattedrale di Mogadiscio and Masaajidka Arbaca Rukun. The fact that the Cathedral was not deliberately grazed to the ground to this day by the locals is testament to the inherent religious tolerance of my people. The future Diocese of Mogadiscio should renovate the Cathedral and restore it to it's former glory

[Arabman]

Polygamy is not legal in the West due to (modern) Judeo-Christian principles that they adopted a very long time ago.

So, it's Judeo-Christians who are forcing their beliefs on others, thereby denying Muslims their Islamic right to practice polygamy? Thank you for proving my point that there's no freedom of religion in the West.

Today there are thousands of non muslims in Somalia; many of them working for NGO organizations and they should have the right to open their worshiping locations without the fear of any religious persecution.

Some or many of those non muslims in Somalia could be gay. Should they have the right to openly live as gays among Somalis? And should Somalis allow same sex marriage?

Cattedrale di Mogadiscio and Masaajidka Arbaca Rukun. The fact that the Cathedral was not deliberately grazed to the ground to this day by the locals is testament to the inherent religious tolerance of my people. The future Diocese of Mogadiscio should renovate the Cathedral and restore it to it's former glory

Dude, what have you been smoking lately? The Cattedrale is in ruins and has been grazed to the ground. Here, a firsthand proof:

[SiennaEarth]

I want Somalia to be inclusive of all people including Christians to worship openly. Enjoying a normal life outside of Somalia where all types of people of all walks of life live peacefully and integrated together; I want the same for Somalia. Christianity is the biggest religion in the world and churches like mosques should be openly built for people who are Christian. As well as other faiths. We have enjoyed progression, so do people in Somalia deserve that right too. Faith, education and lifestyles should be inclusive and not exclusive. I would like to build a church in Mogdhushio even though I am not Christian. So I can make an example for the good people of Somalia.

Somalia is only for Muslims. It's not like Christians are serious about their religion anyway so why bother building a church. Balayo shaydan ah.

[Thuganomics]

Actually those of you who think Islam is against other religious places of worship to be built in an Islamic country don't know anything.Islam is the only religion that allows other faiths to coexist with it.If Christianity was the state apparatus of western European countries they'd be no way any mosques would be allowed in any countries.As is the case in Greece,where the orthodox church has a. big influence.It's when they adopted secularism that they allowed mosques and synagogues. It's only the Arabian Peninsula that churches and such like are banned and that is for historical reasons (do the research).So when hebel Johnson says he can count the number of churches in Muslim countries on his left hand he's just spewing the utter Arap he hears in their biased media.

[GeoSeven]

Arabman, it was not destroyed deliberately out of animosity

[Arabman]

Arabman, it was not destroyed deliberately out of animosity

First, the cathedral was built during the colonial times; Somalis didn't have a say in approving it. Second, "In late 2008, much of the cathedral's infrastructure had reportedly been destroyed by Islamist radicals."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogadishu_Cathedral

There you go.

[GeoSeven]

Arabman, it was not destroyed deliberately out of animosity

First, the cathedral was built during the colonial times; Somalis didn't have a say in approving it. Second, "In late 2008, much of the cathedral's infrastructure had reportedly been destroyed by Islamist radicals."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogadishu_Cathedral

There you go.

Alright, I didn't know that. But Islamic Radicals don't necessarily represent the locals nor do their outlooks mirror those of the people. Christians, Jews and people of all other faiths should have the right to worship and build places of worship in Somalia. The Somalia diaspora are allowed their Mosques in non Muslim countries, it's only fair we extend the same favor and courtesy to non Muslims in our country