Hassan sheikh feeling the heat from outside

[Substance]

Its clear that he is under pressure from foreigners, altough the reasons can be speculated but this case of bank governor are being used as measure of the corruption of the office of president and rightfully so. But why now? And not at the hight of the incident? The biggest supporter of the President have withdrawed their support(turkey). Our friend Sahal can potray Hassan sheikh as more "powerful then Assad" but this picture says alot of how the sitaution is around Villa Somalia at the moment.

[Substance]

Biggest donor Turkey stops direct budget support to Somalia

Turkey has stopped direct budgetary support to Somalia, cutting off a major source of funding for a government trying to rebuild the country after more than two decades of chaos.
Turkey is a key ally of the Somali government. Its vast humanitarian aid effort at the height of the 2011 famine has endeared the country to many Somali people, especially as Ankara continues to build hospitals and dispatch aid across Somalia.

Turkey has backed the Somali government with direct cash aid, in contrast to Western governments who have pledged billions but not in the form of direct budget support.

A Turkish foreign ministry official told Reuters direct budget support payments stopped at the end of 2013.

It is not clear how much cash Turkey donated to Somalia in 2013, when the government budget totalled $110 million.

Somalia's former central bank chief, Abdusalam Omer, said during his seven-month tenure the support amounted to $4.5 million per month, which he said was paid in cash to the central bank.

A Somali government official confirmed the support stopped at the end of 2013 but said his government "hopes the payments will be re-started".

When asked whether there were plans to restart payments in 2014 or whether talks were taking place over resuming direct budget support, the Turkish official told Reuters in Ankara: "We have no such plans at this stage. It is not on our agenda."

An official from TİKA (Turkish Cooperation and Coordination Agency) said its projects in Somalia were unaffected and would continue.

Turkey's support for the current government has angered Islamist al Shabaab rebels, who in July raided Turkey's embassy compound in Mogadishu, killing three people and wounding nine others.

CENTRAL BANK SCANDAL

The government of President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, which was firmly backed by the West when it came to power in September 2012 amid a wave of optimism, has since become a source of frustration for many Somalis angry with the slow pace of change, insecurity and graft allegations.

The government has lost much goodwill from Western donors angry over a scandal sparked by the resignation of central bank governor Yussur Abrar, who said she quit after only seven weeks in the job due to pressure on her to sign shady deals.

Somali officials denied the corruption claims.

The Turkish official said Turkey's budget support cut was not related to recent developments, saying the support agreement was only in place for 2013 and had expired.

Horn of Africa analyst Rashid Abdi said the loss of Turkey's budget aid will "definitely be a disappointment for the current government but I have no doubt they will find another (Middle Eastern) partner who will be happy to plug the shortfall."

Western diplomats say they will not be stepping up to fill the budget hole and some shudder at how little oversight Turkey had over its aid.

Former governor Omer recalled how once a month he would visit Turkey's Mogadishu embassy to collect $4.5 million in boxes full of cash. "It was always in $100 bills," he told Reuters in Nairobi.

Turkey's ambassador to Somalia declined to comment on his government's method of delivering budget support.

Analyst Abdi said other countries may be much more secretive over how much financial support they give to Mohamud, an Islamist president with many allies in the Middle East.

"Turkey for all its faults was pretty transparent in its budgetary support for Somalia compared to other Muslim countries."

(Writing by Drazen Jorgic; editing by Andrew Roche)

[PrinceDaadi]

HSM's problem is not abt heat from outside or Turkeys cutting their aid but he failed to build local institution, the government can collect enough revenue locally.

[sahal80]

"The biggest supporter of the President have withdrawed their support(turkey).". Lol that is from your jeeb!

Turkish may have their own reasons to keep their money as they also support the syrians but its not a political development

$4.2m per month is a big money

Maybe its a pressure on the govt bc turkey was aiming to help her in the security strategy but now all we see is the return of ethiopia.

The article you posted was adited by some one, westren diplomates were telleing reuters that they will still support the govt bc of al shabaab. End of the story!. He better slow it down!.

[Substance]

HSM's problem is not abt heat from outside or Turkeys cutting their aid but he failed to build local institution, the government can collect enough revenue locally.

I agree that he failed locally but lets not pretend there is goverment without foreign aid and military support. We may like it or not but foreigners run the show and they cleary having some issues with the president.

[Substance]

"The biggest supporter of the President have withdrawed their support(turkey).". Lol that is from your jeeb!

Turkish may have their own reasons to keep their money as they also support the syrians but its not a political development

$4.2m per month is a big money

Maybe its a pressure on the govt bc turkey was aiming to help her in the security strategy but now all we see is the return of ethiopia.

The article you posted was adited by some one, westren diplomates were telleing reuters that they will still support the govt bc of al shabaab. End of the story!. He better slow it down!.

You cant deny Turkey role in post TFG era; the visit of Erdogan and all the projects by them etc. They have withdrawn their support from a president many somalis consider failed president. He failed to deal with alshabab, he failed to build credible institution, he failed to fight corruption etc. At the comeback of alshabab in xamar in mind, i want to ask you why you support a failed president?

[metamorphosis]

You were vehemently supporting this man a year ago but when he played with your kin all the sudden you are an opposition? Why dont you stick to your words?

[Substance]

You were vehemently supporting this man a year ago but when he played with your kin all the sudden you are an opposition? Why dont you stick to your words?

I have stated my criticsm of the president in this thread and it got nothing to do with my kin.

[sahal80]

"The biggest supporter of the President have withdrawed their support(turkey).". Lol that is from your jeeb!

Turkish may have their own reasons to keep their money as they also support the syrians but its not a political development

$4.2m per month is a big money

Maybe its a pressure on the govt bc turkey was aiming to help her in the security strategy but now all we see is the return of ethiopia.

The article you posted was adited by some one, westren diplomates were telleing reuters that they will still support the govt bc of al shabaab. End of the story!. He better slow it down!.

You cant deny Turkey role in post TFG era; the visit of Erdogan and all the projects by them etc. They have withdrawn their support from a president many somalis consider failed president. He failed to deal with alshabab, he failed to build credible institution, he failed to fight corruption etc. At the comeback of alshabab in xamar in mind, i want to ask you why you support a failed president?

Lol he is a failed...for you. No problem sxb about your opinions but you should pick one side otherwise its a kinda of hypocricy. You just posted a great thread about him last week meeting with american diplomates!

I don't support hassan sheekh or againist him, I stay independent though as a person of principle I like us having strong state and i think dam jadid are great at this.

[Substance]

Sahal: It was never about person or personality for me but policy and this what Im against. Not Hassan sheikh or his qabiil or anything. If I see national policy thats working I will support it but this is not case of today, and if simpleminded forumers cant understand my position, then its not my problem.
History will judge if dam jadiid will make Somalia a strong state, I have my doubts because of their prior corrupt action, they are no different then those who came before them and enriched themself only in the name of Somalia.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

You were vehemently supporting this man a year ago but when he played with your kin all the sudden you are an opposition? Why dont you stick to your words?

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All these problems existed before HSM, one would be naive to think HSM would fix all the problems over a night. However I'm afraid some people are opposing HSM solely for qabiil reasons.

[SultanOrder]

You were vehemently supporting this man a year ago but when he played with your kin all the sudden you are an opposition? Why dont you stick to your words?

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All these problems existed before HSM, one would be naive to think HSM would fix all the problems over a night. However I'm afraid some people are opposing HSM solely for qabiil reasons.

And some are supporting HSM solely for qabiil reasons.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

PO, saaxiib you know im telling the truth, the opposition against the man started when he was in office less than 48 hours, what does that tell you?

[Substance]

You were vehemently supporting this man a year ago but when he played with your kin all the sudden you are an opposition? Why dont you stick to your words?

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All these problems existed before HSM, one would be naive to think HSM would fix all the problems over a night. However I'm afraid some people are opposing HSM solely for qabiil reasons.

Nobody was talking about fixing the problem over one night. But fact are there has been no noteable progress at all since Hasssan sheikh took over from Sheikh Shariif. The so called peace is provided by 18000 amisom and the social projects are coming from the turks. But let's ignore this and label anyone who adresses this as they where motivated by qabiill.

[SultanOrder]

That is true but don't use that to discredit legitimate criticism of HSM and his presidency. It is nearly 6 months away from the end of his second year, or his midterm. Yet, we know that things are not progressing at all, in fact instead of solving the real problems like security, and institution building, he has let political problems, stuff that has no real bearing on ordinary lives take precedenceand has devoted more energy to them. I thought he was a capable intelligent leader but he has shown no progress.

The EU promised 2.4 bn dollars, only had to do was work on corruption but from the day he took office not one single person has been removed or tried for corruption. He is a useless know it all, and this is someone who user to support him strongly.