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Snet islamists come in

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:00 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Who do you support in Syria?

ISIS or Nusra Front, Ahraar Al Shaam, Liwaa Tawhiid, YPG, FSA or others.
Put also your reason why you support that group.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:24 pm
by Cherine
Why are you obsessed with Syria? Who do you support kuye. You do not hear Syrians ever discussing who to support in that war ravaged country of yours, so questions like 'who to support' and 'why' should be directed at Syrians not people from Somalia.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:30 pm
by Hodan94
Theres like a 1000 groups out there.
anyway listen to cherine, syria is not your country, like they say charity starts at home.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:42 pm
by Arabman
AhlulbaytSoldier wrote:Who do you support in Syria?

ISIS or Nusra Front, Ahraar Al Shaam, Liwaa Tawhiid, YPG, FSA or others.
Put also your reason why you support that group.
Most Sunni Muslims support all groups. Reason; they're fighting for haqq against baatil.
Cherine wrote:Why are you obsessed with Syria? Who do you support kuye. You do not hear Syrians ever discussing who to support in that war ravaged country of yours, so questions like 'who to support' and 'why' should be directed at Syrians not people from Somalia.
We're no longer in the era (1960's) of nationalism. Nationalism is dead in most Muslim countries. Gaalos have NATO, European Union, NAFTA and various economic & military cooperations. When it was the fight against Iraq (Gulf War I & II), it was tens of countries against a single Iraq. The same with Afghanistan. It wasn't America vs Iraq or Afghanistan. This is the era of transnationalism and cooperations.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:55 pm
by JamalAddow
Bro labels were created by the west to disunite us. So there's no such thing as Islamism, Salafism etc there's only Ahlu Sunnah. Once you start calling to it then you might fall into Asabiyah/nationalism.

As muslims we should support all muslims who are under tyranny and transgression and specially those who fight it, like Burma, CAR, Mali, Phillipines not just Syria, but as the others have said charity starts at home, so we need to prioritise.

Currently 65% of Somali land is occupied by gaalo, quarter of our people are internally displaced and survive on aid, our so called gov't gives uniforms to bandits who then rape our displaced sisters.

Yaa Allah we ask you to guide us back home and allow us to serve our poor people.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:02 am
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Cherine wrote:Why are you obsessed with Syria? Who do you support kuye. You do not hear Syrians ever discussing who to support in that war ravaged country of yours, so questions like 'who to support' and 'why' should be directed at Syrians not people from Somalia.

Why am i obsessed with Shaam(Syria, Lebanon, Palestine)? Good question!
The prophet pbuh praised Shaam in many hadiths. It is where the great war will happen. It is the place where caliphate on the sunnah of prophet pbuh will emerge.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:37 am
by grandpakhalif
May Allah help amiir al-bagdhaadi of caliphate of iraq wal sham defeat his enemies.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:46 am
by AbdiJohnson
Islamists are people who believe that Islam should be their social and political guide so all Muslims are Islamists.

Since you're referring to the rebel supporters, just call them the "Snet Terrorists"


I am,

Abdi "Terrorists will be squashed like a bug" Johnson

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:31 am
by waayeel101
Allahuma unsur almujahidin fi sham Amiin.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:34 am
by AhlulbaytSoldier
waayeel101 wrote:Allahuma unsur almujahidin fi sham Amiin.

Amin

But what mujahideen are you talking about?

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:42 am
by waayeel101
only Allah knows who are the real mujahidin.

but for me every muslim who is fighting against nusayriya regime is mujahid.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:46 am
by AhlulbaytSoldier
So Secular YPG is also mujahideen lol

But you are right.
By your definition isis are not mujahideen. They never fight against the nusriyah.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:58 am
by waayeel101
AhlulbaytSoldier wrote:So Secular YPG is also mujahideen lol
reread what i said
waayeel101 wrote:only Allah knows who are the real mujahidin.

but for me every muslim who is fighting against nusayriya regime is mujahid.

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:03 am
by Grant
AbdiJohnson wrote:Islamists are people who believe that Islam should be their social and political guide so all Muslims are Islamists.

Since you're referring to the rebel supporters, just call them the "Snet Terrorists"


I am,

Abdi "Terrorists will be squashed like a bug" Johnson
http://www.danielpipes.org/954/distingu ... d-islamism

In English, a follower of the religion of Islam is a Muslim. An Islamist is something else altogether. Note the "ist" and the "ism" that indicate you are dealing with something related but different. Daniel Pipes wrote about the distinction as early as 1998:

"Islamism is, in other words, yet another twentieth-century radical utopian scheme. Like Marxism-Leninism or fascism, it offers a way to control the state, run society, and remake the human being. It is an Islamic-flavored version of totalitarianism. The details, of course, are very different from the preceding versions, but the ultimate purpose is very similar.

Islamism is also a total transformation of traditional Islam; it serves as a vehicle of modernization. The ideology deals with the problems of urban living, of working women and others at the cutting edge, and not the traditional concerns of farmers. As Olivier Roy, the French scholar, puts it, "Rather than a reaction against the modernization of Muslim societies, Islamism is a product of it." Islamism is not a medieval program but one that responds to the stress and strains of the twentieth century.

In this, Islamism is a huge change from traditional Islam. One illustration: Whereas traditional Islam's sacred law is a personal law, a law a Muslim must follow wherever he is, Islamism tries to apply a Western-style geographic law that depends on where one lives. Take the case of Sudan, where traditionally a Christian was perfectly entitled to drink alcohol, for he is a Christian, and Islamic law applies only to Muslims. But the current regime has banned alcohol for every Sudanese. It assumes Islamic law is territorial because that is the way a Western society is run.

I also wish to note that Islamism has few connections to wealth or poverty; it is not a response to deprivation. There is no discernible connection between income and Islamism. Rather, this movement is led by capable people coping with the rough and tumble of modern life. The ideology appeals primarily to modern people; I am always fascinated to note how many Islamist leaders (for example in Turkey and Jordan) are engineers.

Islamism is by now a powerful force. It runs governments in Iran, Sudan, and Afghanistan. It is an important force of opposition in Algeria, Egypt, Turkey, Lebanon, and the Palestinian Authority. (By my understanding Saudi Arabia and Libya are not Islamist.) I estimate that some 10 percent of the Muslim population world wide is Islamist. But it is very active minority and it has a reach that is greater than its numbers. Islamists are also present here, in the United States, and, to an stunning extent, dominate the discourse of American Islam.

The Islamists' success in Iran, Sudan, and Afghanistan, show that were they to come to power elsewhere, they would create enormous problems for the people they rule, for the neighborhood, and for the United States. Their reaching power would lead to economic contraction, to the oppression of women, to terrible human rights abuses, to the proliferation of arms, to terrorism, and to the spread of a viciously anti-American ideology. These are, in short, rogue states, dangerous first to their own people and then to the outside world."

Re: Snet islamists come in

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:50 am
by Tanker
just sub-humans with different names