...be elected by the House of Representatives (lower house) instead of the people. I'd say yes because its very hard for to hold elections and for two institutions (Presidency and Parliament) to both be directly elected is almost impossible for a small, unrecognised nation.
Look, many elected Presidents in the world are indirectly elected e.g. Greece, Germany, Ethiopia and South Africa. However an unelected legislature is unheard of! Somaliland's lower house of Parliament was LAST elected in 2005!
I agree. The president should be elected by the House of Representatives. When we've matured politically I say we should ditch the two House system i.e get rid of the House of Elders and adopt unicameralism, one parliamentary chamber that's elected by the people of SL every 4 years.
This is backward. Ma waxaad doonaysaa inay taladu u gacan gasho 82 xildhibaan oo calooshooda u shaqaysta yaal ah. Hadday tani dhacdo waxaynu noqonaynaa sida Xamar oo kale.
Cilmi loo eegi maayo xildhibaanadu lacag cidii siinaysa ayuun bay codka siinayaan
I think that this is a very bad idea. Somaliland sets itself apart from the rest because of its unique one man one vote Presidential election. This is something to be proud of and celebrated. BTW if it aint broke dont fix it. As for the Parliament it also should be directly voted by the pubic. I don't understand why this should be a problem for Somaliland and no limitations should be put on the nation, no matter its size.
The other countries that you have mentioned all have a Prime ministe,r Chancellor in Germanie's case who have the real governing power, where as the President is mainly ceremonial. I say election over selection everytime!!!
good responses guys....my concern is that can we hold BOTH presidential and presidential elections simultaneously/within a small time period. if we look back, many times we hear of term extensions e.g. rayaale in 2009 etc
BigBreak wrote:good responses guys....my concern is that can we hold BOTH presidential and presidential elections simultaneously/within a small time period. if we look back, many times we hear of term extensions e.g. rayaale in 2009 etc
Challenges are to be overcome not to be given into. My point is this; What Somaliland has achieved is truly amazing, holding free elections several times, unheard of in most of Africa. The same can be done for the Parliament, However it doesn't have to be rushed. If it takes time, let it. This generation currently holding Parliament and Presidency were all raised in a different time. So allow time for the education of our generation and the one after us to perfect the system. Just pray the current governing bodies dont take us backwards instead of forwards.
The SL political system is broken and will harm is in the long term.
It was created by Egal to gaurentee him power indefinetly but he died and power fell to his lackeys.
Kulmiye moved heaven and earth , and managed to wrest the keys to power by any means.
The problem is that the system is broken and will cause the demise of Somaliland because it gaurentees a kulmiye dictatorship for the forseable future,
There is no such thing as democracy, one man, one vote.
Kulmiye will win every single election in the future unless a very powerfull oposition is formed with access to massive amounts of foriegn funding to do what Kulmiye did to UDUB in 2010.
We need a new constitution and an entire re-structuring of our political system otherwise there will be civil war within 10 years.
I totally disagree with you gurey. You make such wild claims without backing any of it up. What are you talking about no democracy. The last two elections should prove this statement to be ridiculous. As for Kulmiye, they actually shot themselves in the foot when agreeing to the more than three party rule. It is not even certain that they will win next election, let alone every single one, due to their infighting. You have presented a doomsday scenario, predicting a civil war. What do you base this on. They say the best way to predict the future is to look at past experience and the past clearly displays that Somaliland is well equiped to handle political turmoil. A case in point would be the first election between riyaale and siilaanyo, where the difference was just by a small amount of votes. You would expect clashes and non peacefull protests in any country letalone and African one. But this did not happen. actually it was solved peacefully.
BTW currently there might be a political shifting and positioning among the contenders, but no way would this e qualified as turmoil.
It's not backward at all, I believe the House of Representatives should elect the President. Party representation within the parliament will be the main factor that determines the future President. The party or coalition that's majority within SL parliament will obviously achieve majority Government. If it's a party they'll propose a leader, in most cases the party leader or if it is a coalition it will be co-chaired. The only way to stop it would be if majority of MP's within the Chamber of Representatives votes no, which is quite impossible if it's a majority government.
However I believe as Gurey a re-structuring of the current political system.
The presidents of the countries on your list are not political leaders but ceremonial just like the king or queen of the UK and some other parts in Europe.
The public elect their Member of Parliament who then elect a Prime Ministers who then form a government to run the country five years term...and so on...
S/Land has a political system, similar to the US, where we elect the executive (fulinta) and the legislator (sharci dejinta) separately, and many other courtiers/states around the globe.
S/Land has held five public elections since 2002 - two local elections, two presidential elections and one parliament election. caqabad ayaa ka ho yimid parliament ten years la qaban.. and it is scheduled for 2015.
S/Land has held more public elections than Muqdisho or P/Land since 1960. P/Land has held no public election in their entire 15 years of existence.
I disagree with people who say MPs waa la laaluushay to elect or re-elect leaders. in that case, why did not these leaders re-elected to remain in office: PM Cali Khaliif, PM Saacid, President SH. Shariif, ALL P/Land former leaders, Candilahi Yusuf, Cade Muuse, Cabdirahman M. Faroole...etc. Daahir Riyaale Kaahin in 2010 muu isu rido if things work like that?
Agree with Gurey S/Land needs to reform their institutions like the relationship between the media and the government, our courts, so they can deal with fast changing world, culture and crime, reform parliament.
27 parties ama urur siyaasadeed ayaa isa soo sharaxay in 2012 local elections by hoping to qualify for the three major parties of S/Land in the next ten years. ONLY seven had made November 2012 elections, the other twenty waxa lagu reebay process ah
1000 qof oo madax taaba gobol kasta ma ku leedahay, $30,000 deposit or do you have an office in every 12 gobols of S/Land.
Kulmiye, Waddani and UCID have qualified so they can compete public elections for the president, parliament, cities mayors...etc in the next ten years from January 2013.
That hat process should be repeated every five years than a long ten years.
good discussions, appreciate all the comments very thought provoking
in my opinion, the president should be elected at the SAME time as parliament if he is to be popularly elected otherwise let the lower house select him. you can have presidential systems with an indirect election of a ruling president. examples include south africa, guyana, angola and botswana
More women representing parliament as there are only two women out of 82 xubnaha golaha wakiilada. at least a third (27) should be reserved for girls sida Banadir. Kulmiye have improved their women ministers in government to four compared to Edna Adan short period of time in Dahir Riyale.
Beelaha inala daga waxay complain in beesha dhexe are head of institution' i.e. the president, gudomiyaha parliament iyo golaha guurtida, head of judiciary, police chief, taliyaha sare ee ciidanka qaranka, head of the central bank and taliyaha ciidanka bada.
Head of institution aan sheegay above waa wada over 60 years of age but with experience from European Protectorate and Kacaan government. New faces like cabdilahi Farmajo and Abdiweli Gaas from abroad or develop them from home ayaa loo baahn yahay.
Horumarka waxaa lagu beegay mostly Berbera, Hargeysa iyo Awdal. What about gobolada Togdheer, Sool and Sanaag. Masharicda hala qaybsado.
to hold elections and for two institutions (Presidency and Parliament) to both be directly elected is almost impossible for a small, unrecognised nation.
