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What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:05 pm
by BoholKing
In the recent events of crackdown against Somalians in Kenya , the Somaliland Sijuis seem unaffected due to their high social class status within Kenyan
society. They don't settle in Eastleigh or NFD but rather integrated well within Kenyan society in numerous cities and neighborhoods like South
C one of the poshest areas in Nairobi. Is integration in foreign countries the answer?

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:10 pm
by rubicon
There are many isaqs in East Leigh.....who are there like most people to get asylum to the west via Kenya...

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:11 pm
by BoholKing
Not according to my sources. Majority of Somalilanders in Kenya are centuries old established communities very influential business wise on par with the Indians.

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:17 pm
by rubicon
East Leigh is just low budget survival for people trying to go to west. have you ever been to nairobi? the only place were somalis live middle class-upper class lifestyles is Mombasa. Nairobi wealth is experienced by very rich business individuals and Kenyan government officials..a quick drive around Nairobi will show u this.

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:18 pm
by BoholKing
I know what Eastleight is , it is a southern Somalian stronghold it is even called "Little Mogadishu". Hence the reason why most of the people being deported
have no documentation at all, they are refugees who arrived from Dadaab and other locations.

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:19 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
You dont know shyt boholking. I know some Isaaq who got affected.

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:20 pm
by rubicon
I know what Eastleight is , it is a southern Somalian stronghold it is even called "Little Mogadishu". Hence the reason why most of the people being deported
have no documentation at all, they are refugees who arrived from Dadaab and other locations.
Ok......but there are millionaire "southern somalians" in east Leigh...haven't seen many isaq personally. they live in run down houses because it's cheaper than wasting money on fancy houses. So where do the isaq from somaliland get there money to live in nairobi? do they live near the government officials? :?

Minniepolis is also called "little mogadishu" even though it's majority darod. no point there

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:22 pm
by BoholKing
Read the thread title > Somaliland Sijuis meaning centuries old Somaliland communites in Kenya which up 99% of Somalilanders in Kenya.

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:31 pm
by STARKAST
What you mean servants ? jk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Africa
Farah Aden – When Blixen first met Farah, she mistook him for an Indian. However, Farah was a Somali of the Habr Yunis, a tribe of fierce, handsome, and shrewd traders and cattle-dealers.[25] It was common among the British colonists of the early period to hire Somalis as major-domos. Most Somalis were, by the accounts of their employers, highly organized, effective managers. In Shadows on the Grass, Blixen would describe the Somalis as aristocrats among the Africans, "superior in culture and intelligence", and well matched in terms of hauteur with the Europeans they chose to serve.[26] Farah had been hired to work for Bror Blixen as a steward, and Bror sent him to Mombasa to greet Karen when she got off the steamer from England. According to Dinesen's biographer Judith Thurman, “it was upon meeting Farah in Mombasa that Dinesen’s Vita Nuova (new life) truly began.”[25] Blixen entrusted Farah with the farm’s cash flow, and eventually with her complete trust. Farah shared her daily life, mediated her relations with the Africans, and relieved her of many practical burdens. The two would grow exceedingly close, with Blixen herself describing their relationship as a "creative unity".[27] The chapter in which Blixen describes the sale of her farm is titled, “Farah and I Sell Out.” After Blixen and her husband divorced, Farah remained loyal to her, sometimes leaving Karen's service temporarily to work on one of Bror's safaris
Good book nonetheless.

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:35 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
BoholKing wrote:Read the thread title > Somaliland Sijuis meaning centuries old Somaliland communites in Kenya which up 99% of Somalilanders in Kenya.
My bad. :up:

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:36 pm
by BoholKing
rubicon wrote:
I know what Eastleight is , it is a southern Somalian stronghold it is even called "Little Mogadishu". Hence the reason why most of the people being deported
have no documentation at all, they are refugees who arrived from Dadaab and other locations.
Ok......but there are millionaire "southern somalians" in east Leigh...haven't seen many isaq personally.


That is the point they are rare to find in Eastleigh slum because they are better off and live in different areas in Kenya. Most of them own multi million
companies across Kenya and are educated.


Exhibit A


Bluebird Aviation
Bluebird Aviation is a regional airline based in Nairobi, Kenya. It was established in 1999 and operates regional charter services.
Its main base is Wilson Airport, Nairobi.

CEO - Hussein Ahmed Farah

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Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:22 pm
by mohnig23
Isaaqs have lived in Kenya for decades. Many live in small tea towns. If you didn't know now you know.

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:48 am
by theyuusuf143
sijuies are africanized somalilanders their facial look is different so obviosly they look like other kenyans, even if some of them lives in islii they may not be asked to show their ID as the police are tageting pure ethnic somalis.

how ever there are small number of normal somalilanders in nairobi and they live with their fellow somalis in eastleigh, there is no way they can escape from the problems. integration is good but sijuis are almost loosing their somali identity, although the isaq ones use their clan name in kenya known as ISAHAKIA (naivasha area), but the harti ones disapeared. i do not recommend that kind of integration.

Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:00 am
by BoholKing
Nah that is false. Majority of Somaliland Sijuis have no facial difference from other Somalilanders. You will find few odd looking ones who
mixed with the Kenyan locals but that is not the majority.Most Somaliland Sijuis have Somali parents on both sides. Even the likes of
Professor Hussein M. Adam (Hussein Tanzania) whose mum is Masai/Indian looks Somali. Yes there is a Isaaqia organization currently
some HY guy is the chairman.



Third generation Somaliland Sijui Amina Hersi Moghe
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Re: What can we learn from Somaliland Sijuis?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:58 am
by Warabaha
It is true that the isaaq community in kenya (like ethiopia) are doing very well financially which cushions them from the current troubles however we must not forget other somali communities which are not as financially cushioned. this just means we should learn from their success.