somali govt stops demo againist kenyan security crackdown in

[sahal80]

In nairobi

Latest news are saying that by orders from president hassan, the interior minister and the banadir governor, the police has stopped this morning protests againist the kenyan security crackdown in eastleight

Somali prez has called earlier in nairobi for these somalis during a meeting to die in their land!.

[SecretAgent]

Hassan sheik close family members live in kenya he says 1 word against them his family will be kicked out or jailed

[sahal80]

Lol his family have moved to turkey with their own house!.

[SecretAgent]

Sahal is prof.ali geedi comin back in 2016 or sheik sharif who does kenya support and why ?

[sahal80]

Geedi was in xamar few weeks ago asking for job!

For the west, hassan sheekh will stay in the power until his first term ends though locally, some may try to take advantage of the donor position but dam jadid are controlling the parliament, they also have a planB for the post-2016 like avoiding to hold elections by not completing the system under the guidance of his chief minister farah abdulqadir who is responsible for the elections, political parties and apponting federal members to the upper house.

In other words they are giving the middle finger to the west and the local politicians, meantime trying to change the key positions, mogadishu commissioners, ambassadors, pay many parliaments seats for their lobbies and make many world friends for the regime.

[SecretAgent]

But dam jadiid is funded by Qatar which is backed by the west how can a weak somali govt say fuck off to the west,un,igad,when thy r bullied by regional states such as ethiopa which has troops in hiiraan,bay,galguduud

[sahal80]

Not just qatar, they get $25 million per month from turkey and $17 from norway with qatar will be $45m per month.
Anyways, they are moving now to saudi arabia/UAE/egypt camp and these countries only care for an ally not for democracy besides offering some financial aid directly, their banks soon may deal with the govt directly.

African bank has also started dealing with them directly unlike of the previous govts as they received their first 20 million directlly

I' mean in the future they may give the middle finger to the west as they have now the international legitimacy on their side and maybe the world and the interests will change in that time.

What I'm talking about is dj trying to control the system(cabinet, parliament, constitution, courts, regions and mostly banadir, police, army, ambassadors, then, as a result of this, they will back through the parliament)

Example when the ex pm saacid was ousted through the parliament, the international legitimacy and the diplomates have seen it as an inistitutional progress!!

The real problem between the west and hassan sheekh is not about the reformation, its about his centralist agenda. The west have been influenced by IGAD and its vision for somalia since the last decade.

[original dervish]

It was the west whom conferred legitimacy upon the Hassan Sheikh regime.....and they can deligitimize his motley crew in the blink of an eye.
The only place where the middle finger can be used is in the wash room.

Whenever this pathetic regime is humiliated by foreign nations...Sahal tries to spin it.
"We're moving to the US camp...We're moving to the Saudi camp....We're moving to the Chinese camp"
This guy is the Phileas Fogg of politics.

[LobsterUnit]

Dervish,i wonder how much xisaab sahal gets for this or is just a hobby.?

[AbdiWahab252]

I guess Hassan Sheik is worried about being prevented from going to Nairobi when he is no longer President just like Saacid who cant travel to.Kenya

[Murax]

Hassan Sh is a dumb illiterate beggar with zero power. What He says or doesn't says doesn't matter.

[sahal80]

It was the west whom conferred legitimacy upon the Hassan Sheikh regime.....and they can deligitimize his motley crew in the blink of an eye.
The only place where the middle finger can be used is in the wash room.

Whenever this pathetic regime is humiliated by foreign nations...Sahal tries to spin it.
"We're moving to the US camp...We're moving to the Saudi camp....We're moving to the Chinese camp"
This guy is the Phileas Fogg of politics.

Miskin OD like always gets confused with my threads

The reason is because of your civilazational/continental illiteracy,(al ummiya al xadariyah)

To start with, you don't know what means/are the UAE, saudi arabia, qatar, turkey etc

Only at that time you would be able to understand the political mechanisms that the somali regime uses!!

Its bc of this why this regime has in the past reduced the traditional regional powers, its because of this why the new ones are afraid of it!

Do you know these guys have met secretly and agreed between them that the non post holders who are ex big officials should continue the war againist the govt while those who are running the... Will stay away from them publically!!

Oh I forget to make the thread I promised about the regimes economical sanctions so you could understand this

Forget that one its too old now, I will be making soon a new one about turkey and somalia(shocking)

This is the sudanese policy, close to the dj policy, before you criticize learn it and stay out of these continental polocies!!.

أفردت المذكرة حيزاً كبيراً ضمن القضايا السابقة للعلاقات الخارجية (ضرورة الابتعاد عن المحاور التي خلفتها ثورات ما سُمي بالربيع العربي) وفي ذلك مضت في توضيح الظروف التي نتجت عنها تلك الثورات، وما سمته (الردة الثورية) في بعض الدول وذكرت منها مصر وتونس تحديداً، وأكدت أن الأوضاع في ليبيا (تبدو غير واضحة ولا يمكن بناء تحالفات في ظل ما يجري من عدم استقرار) وخلصت إلى أن (المشروع الإسلامي في السودان يواجه تحدياً قد يجبره على تغيير خارطة التحالفات حتى لا تحيق به العزلة الإقليمية وتصيبه شظايا الحرب الدولية) واقترحت (تمتين العلاقات مع الصين وروسيا دولياً، ومع تركيا قطر إقليمياً) وخصت الأخير بذكر مطول بالتعويل عليها في لعب دور أكبر مما فعلت بالنسبة للقضية الدارفورية في الخطوات المقترحة. كذلك مضت المذكرة في تشريح العلاقة مع الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية، وأشارت إلى إمكانية توسيط دول بعينها لتحسين العلاقة معها بتقديم تنازلات ملمو

[XimanJaale]

Hassan Sh is a dumb illiterate beggar with zero power. What He says or doesn't says doesn't matter.

Why don't u become the president of Somalia and fix the country?

[Murax]

Hassan Sh is a dumb illiterate beggar with zero power. What He says or doesn't says doesn't matter.

Why don't u become the president of Somalia and fix the country?

At least I have the decency to know I'm not fit to lead. Secondly alhamdulilah, I do not need to exploit miskiin long suffering citizens politically to survive financially like this loser. One things for sure though I would never feel so anemic and powerless that I simply cannot at least issue issue a tepid statement When the dignity of Somali women and children in Kenya is being affronted in ways that will go down in the history books:

[Murax]

The only bright news is contrary to the unintelligible, infant logic propaganda that guys like Sahal spew on Here about Qoslaaye and Beggar-Jadiid, it is obvious now that Xassan Sh's role is much, much reduced. The new Prime Minister is serious, and the Speaker Professor Jawaari is full control of His executive domain and the role of the inept Xassan Qoslaaye is very much reduced. I don't mind Him staying on as long as He sticks to the basic, non critical issues that seem to be the scope of His capabilities