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The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western state'
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:01 pm
by Even123
Western State= Bakool and Hiiraan!
Masha’allah President Hassan and its team playing smart.
http://www.caasimadda.com/wararka/maamu ... -dhawaaqay
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:08 pm
by hydrogen
Let's see what your 'brother' Sahal thinks about you celebrating the purported end of his clan's autonomy and association with Elaays (Darood & Rahanweyne) from Bakool.
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:40 pm
by GeoSeven
Not going to happen.
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:49 pm
by nerdfresh
hmm, not a bad idea... how about bay bakool hiiraan galgaduud iyo hawiye mudug with habar gidir and mirifle for president and vice president. inshallah dheh walaalyal.. If not hawiye mudug galdaguud iyo hiiraan with habar gidir madaxweyne i support last option digil iyo mirifle need their own state and indepdendence hiiraan clans better ofd with habar gidir brothers must stick together
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:53 pm
by original dervish
The main thing is that the people are behind any new formation.
As far as I know....hawadle would rather join S/L than be in a state with H/G.
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:05 pm
by nerdfresh
it doesnt matter what xawadle thinks, they are outnumbered 5 to 1, hiiraan has over 10 subclans, hiiraan can never become a federal state, we need a partner and d&m and middle shabelle dont want to join hiiraan, only option is the habar gidir and murusade they need us and we need them they dont qualify and we dont qualify, any hawadle who tells you hiiraan state will come into fruition is desparate and not even their daddy culusoow cant help them violate the constitution. Expect this new state within 12 months mark my words this is about practicality not emotions, hawadle is scared of hg influence n dominance , they need to stop being babies, everywhere in somalia clans r learning to share except the hawadle, the hawadle need to stop their childish behavior, hawadle is the size of a sub clan of habar yonis and look at how habar yonis and habar jeclo share, hawadle should be ashamed of themselves
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:17 pm
by GeoSeven
^ Like Louis and his obsession with the 77 war, this one pops up as soon as Hawadle is mentioned
Nerdfresh, it's quite obvious as daylight that your'e a multinicker who logs on to this nick as soon as you see the words Hawadle and occasionally Abgaal spelled on a thread.
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:21 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
this shidh is a never ending riwaayad walle.

Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:23 pm
by STARKAST
Hawadle should get get every inch of representation they want in their home region: Hiraan. Its not them going on fact finding missions to Marka, SH and taking it over.
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:00 pm
by sahal80
These are jajeele who settle inside kilinka, hiiraan and bakool borders. In bakool they live from tiyeeglow to ceelberde
They had a meeting in baladweyne and the agenda is to send a message to the govt and baydhobo conference
Since them and hawadle are close allies the administration have let them hold their conference freely when some politicians of hawadle(hiiraan state) were put in jail and then deported after they tried to hold a meeting in baladweyne.
Local elders are currently meeting with their elders to sort out peacefully.
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:37 pm
by original dervish
There has to be one federal central state....Hiiraan, M/Shabelle, Galgadud, southern Mudug.
Anything else just won't work.
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:53 pm
by Titanium
original dervish wrote:There has to be one central central state....Hiiraan, M/Shabelle, Galgadud, southern Mudug.
Anything else just won't work.
Your vagina is leaking. There will be three Hawiye states and the federal capital: Hiiraan State, Shabelle State, ASWJ/HH/Galmudug and Mogadishu.
Hawiye makes the rules.
Now your vagina is dry

Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:33 pm
by sahal80
Titanium wrote:original dervish wrote:There has to be one central central state....Hiiraan, M/Shabelle, Galgadud, southern Mudug.
Anything else just won't work.
Your vagina is leaking. There will be three Hawiye states and the federal capital: Hiiraan State, Shabelle State, ASWJ/HH/Galmudug and Mogadishu.
Hawiye makes the rules.
Now your vagina is dry

This is actually a true initiative and the govt has given them 6 months.
This clans mps want to create more states and as for hiiraan they secured so far 61 mps. The new hiiraan admin works until wich initiave hiiraan shall adopt it is known the local or the offical one.
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:44 pm
by Titanium
Sahal does Hiiraan as a state by itself have a good chance of forming?
Re: The curse of federalism Somalia, A new state 'Western st
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:24 pm
by sahal80
Titanium wrote:Sahal does Hiiraan as a state by itself have a good chance of forming?
Depends on the parliament.
govt has given all of them( hiiraan, central, middle shaballe mps) 6 months to try with with their own initiatives. Farah abdulqadir supports a federal state of galgaduud and southren mudug but they need to vote in the parliament. They have more chance like making a new legislations for that region.
Hiiraan mps will come up with a motion soon, if they succeed, they will hold a regional conference in baladweyne to form a regional state if not, when the 6 months(current admin) ends they have to join some where.