Read this interesting article.

[North brother]

British Government exposes real agenda against Islam and the Muslim world by attacking the Shariah and the Caliphate State

London, UK, October 11 – The British Home Secretary, Charles Clarke on the 5th October 2005 in a speech on Counter Terrorism at The Heritage Foundation, a neoconservative think tank in Washington DC, clearly spelt out that the war on terror is nothing other than a war on Islam and the aspirations of millions of Muslims across the world.

In a blunt reference to the desire in the Muslim world for Islamic governance, Clarke said, “What drives these people on is ideas. And unlike the liberation movements of the post World War II era in many parts of the world, these are not in pursuit of political ideas like national independence from colonial rule, or equality for all citizens without regard for race or creed, or freedom of expression without totalitarian repression. Such ambitions are, at least in principle, negotiable and in many cases have actually been negotiated. However there can be no negotiation about the re-creation of the Caliphate; there can be no negotiation about the imposition of Shariah law; there can be no negotiation about the suppression of equality between the sexes; there can be no negotiation about the ending of free speech. These values are fundamental to our civilisation and are simply not up for negotiation.”

This latest attack upon the Muslim world follows Tony Blair’s comments on the 16th July 2005 when he described as extremists, those wanting to establish Shariah Law en route to a Caliphate. These comments have established the fact that what Britain and America are fighting in the name of the ‘war on terror’ is the Islamic political system or Caliphate. The Caliphate State is the political system established by the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) in Madinah and which was subsequently implemented throughout the centuries in the Muslim world till Britain dismembered the last Caliphate in Istanbul in 1924.

Dr Imran Waheed, a media representative of Hizb ut-Tahrir Britain, said, “These latest comments from Clarke, have clearly exposed the reality of this so-called war on terror. The Shariah is the basic Islamic Law that regulates the individual and societal life of Muslims throughout the world. These offensive comments about the Shariah and the Caliphate, will leave no doubt in the Muslim world that this is a war against Islam and not about individuals or groups committing acts of violence. It is about the Western governments hatred and intolerance of Islam, the Shariah and the political institution left by the Prophet Muhammad (SAW), the Islamic Caliphate State. Mr Clarke’s predecessor Lord Curzon, the British Foreign Secretary gloated after destroying the Caliphate State in 1924 - "the point at issue is that Turkey has been destroyed and shall never rise again, because we have destroyed her spiritual power: the Caliphate and Islam."

Clarke and Blair’s comments about the Caliphate reflect the inherent historical hatred within the British establishment towards Muslims living by the Shariah and Islamic governance.

These Western governments are now in a state of desperation as millions of Muslims, from Turkey to Indonesia are calling for the return of the Shariah and the Caliphate to replace the corrupt dictators, monarchs and kings that have been loyally serving the West ever since they destroyed the Caliphate in 1924. Having failed to face the Islamic movement intellectually and politically and realising the inevitability of the return of the Caliphate State on the world stage, Western governments have launched a worldwide war against Islam and the non-violent political work for the Caliphate.”

In this climate of intimidation, fear and repression, Hizb ut-Tahrir Britain calls upon Muslims to intensify the non-violent intellectual and political work for the establishment of the Caliphate State, which will free the Muslim world from the oppressive dictators and puppet rulers patronised by Bush and Blair

[foolxume2005]

COMMON MAN YOU KNOW NOBODY WILL READ THIS LONG AZZ STORY, TELL ME WHAT ARE THEY TAKLING ABOUT?

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Shari'a socks!
The Caliphate notion is stupid!

Death to all political Islam!

[+chilli]

Lol ^^ maaxa ku haaya


Democracy sucks

Death to white secular leaders


(London, UK, October 11 – The British Home Secretary, Charles Clarke on the 5th October 2005 in a speech on Counter Terrorism at The Heritage Foundation, a neoconservative think tank in Washington DC, clearly spelt out that the war on terror is nothing other than a war on Islam and the aspirations of millions of Muslims across the world) ...old news, the terror nonesense fools no1

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
Hey, if you want to live under a facist government that allows no personal freedom, have at it. But don't expect the rest of us to jump on board anytime soon. I'll take white western leaders over Arab or Black African political leaders any day of the week and twice on Sunday. And a quick glance around the world ought to indicate that maybe I have a point. I mean, seriously, how many Westerners do you see seeking political asylum in the Middle East or Africa?

[+chilli]

The colour of a leader shouldn’t matter as long as they legal (?)
Anyhow 1 look around the world n its all the same corrupt, just cuz west holds better face don’t mean its all roses. Take look at history and you’ll see ‘west’ went through the same process as Africa and middle east is going through right now, political struggle.
So please save me the ‘oh the west is perfect cuz we have democracy’
1st of all American is so fake, its in poverty n hides it, n go compare eastern Europe to Africa, the similarity is amazing.

N western seeking political asylum, well they don’t have the change to, 1st the places they can go is limited since ‘West’ has its eyes everywhere N 2nd …oh never mind


Its all about Islamic state sxb...live it inhale it n accept it

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
You are right in that we learned many a painful lesson that you are learning now. Might I add, however, that you want to repeat the mistakes concerning religious leadership that we made in the Middle Ages. We learned the hard way that religious political leadership is a bad thing. Now, you can take a chapter out of our lesson book and skip the brutal lessons that we had to undergo to learn the concept, or youcan repeat the mistakes we made and learn the hard way. Religion belongs in the sphere of the private, Not of public policy.

Secondly, I'm not saying white is better, I am saying western is better. In Africa and the Middle East, cronyism, facism, and corruption are the political watchwords of the day. If you put the title "Islamic" in front of it, it's still the same thing. If you think that suddenly some wave of Islamic altruistic political leadership is going to appear out of nowhere and lead Muslims to a wonderful political utopia, you are a moron.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
You are right in that we learned many a painful lesson that you are learning now. Might I add, however, that you want to repeat the mistakes concerning religious leadership that we made in the Middle Ages. We learned the hard way that religious political leadership is a bad thing. Now, you can take a chapter out of our lesson book and skip the brutal lessons that we had to undergo to learn the concept, or youcan repeat the mistakes we made and learn the hard way. Religion belongs in the sphere of the private, Not of public policy.

Secondly, I'm not saying white is better, I am saying western is better. In Africa and the Middle East, cronyism, facism, and corruption are the political watchwords of the day. If you put the title "Islamic" in front of it, it's still the same thing. If you think that suddenly some wave of Islamic altruistic political leadership is going to appear out of nowhere and lead Muslims to a wonderful political utopia, you are a moron.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
You are right in that we learned many a painful lesson that you are learning now. Might I add, however, that you want to repeat the mistakes concerning religious leadership that we made in the Middle Ages. We learned the hard way that religious political leadership is a bad thing. Now, you can take a chapter out of our lesson book and skip the brutal lessons that we had to undergo to learn the concept, or youcan repeat the mistakes we made and learn the hard way. Religion belongs in the sphere of the private, Not of public policy.

Secondly, I'm not saying white is better, I am saying western is better. In Africa and the Middle East, cronyism, facism, and corruption are the political watchwords of the day. If you put the title "Islamic" in front of it, it's still the same thing. If you think that suddenly some wave of Islamic altruistic political leadership is going to appear out of nowhere and lead Muslims to a wonderful political utopia, you are a moron.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
You are right in that we learned many a painful lesson that you are learning now. Might I add, however, that you want to repeat the mistakes concerning religious leadership that we made in the Middle Ages. We learned the hard way that religious political leadership is a bad thing. Now, you can take a chapter out of our lesson book and skip the brutal lessons that we had to undergo to learn the concept, or youcan repeat the mistakes we made and learn the hard way. Religion belongs in the sphere of the private, Not of public policy.

Secondly, I'm not saying white is better, I am saying western is better. In Africa and the Middle East, cronyism, facism, and corruption are the political watchwords of the day. If you put the title "Islamic" in front of it, it's still the same thing. If you think that suddenly some wave of Islamic altruistic political leadership is going to appear out of nowhere and lead Muslims to a wonderful political utopia, you are a moron.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
You are right in that we learned many a painful lesson that you are learning now. Might I add, however, that you want to repeat the mistakes concerning religious leadership that we made in the Middle Ages. We learned the hard way that religious political leadership is a bad thing. Now, you can take a chapter out of our lesson book and skip the brutal lessons that we had to undergo to learn the concept, or youcan repeat the mistakes we made and learn the hard way. Religion belongs in the sphere of the private, Not of public policy.

Secondly, I'm not saying white is better, I am saying western is better. In Africa and the Middle East, cronyism, facism, and corruption are the political watchwords of the day. If you put the title "Islamic" in front of it, it's still the same thing. If you think that suddenly some wave of Islamic altruistic political leadership is going to appear out of nowhere and lead Muslims to a wonderful political utopia, you are a moron.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
You are right in that we learned many a painful lesson that you are learning now. Might I add, however, that you want to repeat the mistakes concerning religious leadership that we made in the Middle Ages. We learned the hard way that religious political leadership is a bad thing. Now, you can take a chapter out of our lesson book and skip the brutal lessons that we had to undergo to learn the concept, or youcan repeat the mistakes we made and learn the hard way. Religion belongs in the sphere of the private, Not of public policy.

Secondly, I'm not saying white is better, I am saying western is better. In Africa and the Middle East, cronyism, facism, and corruption are the political watchwords of the day. If you put the title "Islamic" in front of it, it's still the same thing. If you think that suddenly some wave of Islamic altruistic political leadership is going to appear out of nowhere and lead Muslims to a wonderful political utopia, you are a moron.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
You are right in that we learned many a painful lesson that you are learning now. Might I add, however, that you want to repeat the mistakes concerning religious leadership that we made in the Middle Ages. We learned the hard way that religious political leadership is a bad thing. Now, you can take a chapter out of our lesson book and skip the brutal lessons that we had to undergo to learn the concept, or youcan repeat the mistakes we made and learn the hard way. Religion belongs in the sphere of the private, Not of public policy.

Secondly, I'm not saying white is better, I am saying western is better. In Africa and the Middle East, cronyism, facism, and corruption are the political watchwords of the day. If you put the title "Islamic" in front of it, it's still the same thing. If you think that suddenly some wave of Islamic altruistic political leadership is going to appear out of nowhere and lead Muslims to a wonderful political utopia, you are a moron.

[+chilli]

Hey am please to be a moron better then being conscious blind fool who accepts things as they are now, No way there has to be better solution.
You know what I have the same hope in my heart, that Islam is not abused as Christianity was. But you guys never learned no lesson you replaced it the (old system) n took religion out, with same principles.

Anyhow the base of this discussion is there will never be a utopia, historical materialism are taught us that.
But to say 1 system is better then 1 is just not right, democracy workings for you good, don’t’ force it down our throats.

I honestly believe Islamic state will work, n the notion it doesn’t offer freedom is just none-sense( History as proven it worked for awhile), so stop undermining it by comparing it the crap that exists today…peace

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Chilli
Let me ask you a few questions. In this great Islamic government of yours, how do the leaders get selected? Who selects them? What powers do what leaders have - how are the branches of government divided up? If the leaders fail to perform, how are they replaced? Who decides who to replace them and with whom? Can you cite for me the Islamic guidelines for the structure of your Islamic government, cause I haven't been able to find it.