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Obama's 'strategy' against 'pariah' Russia

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:lol: :lol: go pepe! go !!

THE ROVING EYE
Obama's 'strategy' against 'pariah' Russia
By Pepe Escobar

The Barack Obama administration seems to love the sound of unilateral sanctions in the morning. It must feel like "victory".

Real, hardcore sanctions, if ever applied, would be devastating mostly for North Atlantic Treaty Organization poodles, not Moscow. Meanwhile, (energy) adults continue to do business as usual.

There's no way to understand Cold War 2.0 without a flashback to November 2010, when Vladimir Putin directly addressed German
business/industry, proposing an economic community from Lisbon to Vladivostok.

German interest in this key strategic relationship has been reciprocal. Amplified to other nations, that implies in the long run a full European Union-Russia economic/trade integration, and, in the bigger picture, a step closer to Europe-Asia integration. Which translates as absolute anathema for the embattled, Monopoly-addicted hyperpower/hegemon.

For all of US Think Tankland talking and theorizing, breathlessly, about "containment" of a "rogue state" - which in itself is laughable, as if Russia was Somalia - the Obama administration's overarching "strategy" is really in a class by itself. This masterpiece of juvenile delinquent diplomacy boils down to "ignore Putin".

Call it the "I don't like you; I don't wanna talk to you; I just wish you'd die" school of diplomacy. How come Talleyrand never thought if it? Well, with advisers such as the astonishing mediocrity Ivo Daalder, a former ambassador to NATO, no wonder Obama does not need enemies.

All we need is Lavrov
The sanctions hysteria is designed to force President Putin to bow to the hegemon's whims, as part of the overall "strategy"; forging an "international consensus" to "isolate" Russia and turn it into a "pariah state". "Pariah states" that do energy mega-deals, as in here and here.

Still, the predominant wishful thinking revolves around the economic strangulation of Russia - as it was relentlessly attempted against Iran (and bravely resisted by Iranians). Inside their bubble, the wishful thinkers even believe Beijing will be on board, oblivious to the fact that Beijing clearly sees the sanction hysteria/ignore Putin "doctrine" as a branch of the "pivoting to Asia" - which is essentially military containment of China.

In the end, the Kremlin has also reached a similar conclusion: it's useless to talk to Washington. After all, the hegemon's laundry list remains the same - the Kremlin is not allowed to support popular protests in eastern and southern Ukraine; everyone must submit to the neo-nazi/neo-fascist-allied regime changers in Kiev; and Crimea must be "returned" - to NATO - so NATO can kick Moscow out of the Black Sea.

Washington's ultimate wet dream would be to interrupt gas shipments by Gazprom from Russia to the EU - in fact trade sabotage, which Moscow would undoubtedly interpret as an act of war. Meanwhile, Washington/NATO's "Plan A" remains to lure the Kremlin into an "invasion" - so Putin can be (in fact already is) denounced as "the new Hitler" and the ultimate threat to the EU.

So much for the "containment/isolation" martini cocktail of arrogance, ignorance, impotence and irresponsibility. Diplomatic finesse? Forget it. In terms of a real diplomat at work, feel free to admit "All We Need Is Lavrov".

Go back to Game of Thrones
Moscow has so many ways to retaliate real hard against the hegemon: in Syria; on the Iran nuclear dossier; on NATO's ignominious withdrawal from Afghanistan via the Northern Distribution Network, which goes through Russia; on the future of Afghanistan.

If the White House and the US State Department really wanted to listen to how Putin frames the relationship between the West and Russia, that has been voiced repeatedly by the Kremlin. Russia expects respect from "our Western partners", who since 1991 have treated it not as "an independent, active participant in international affairs", with "its own national interests that need to be taken into account and respected", but as a backward or dangerous nation to dismiss and "contain".

The historical record clearly shows Washington does not respect the national interests of anybody; the only thing that matters is that they should always be subordinated to Washington's interests.

The Kremlin, in a nutshell, has invited Washington to play realpolitik. Not Monopoly. The Obama administration, at best - and we are being very lenient here - plays checkers. Moscow plays chess. A mad drive to instill chaos in Russia's western borderlands while "ignoring" Putin won't change the Kremlin's defense of what it perceives as Russia's national interests.

Let's say the "project" was to seize Ukraine, kick Moscow out of the Sevastopol base, and thus from the Eastern Mediterranean; and then take over Syria, so Qatar - and not Iran-Iraq-Syria - may get "its" share of Pipelineistan via Jordan and a Sunni-ruled Syria towards EU markets. The "project" is miserably failing.

Yet the sanctions game will persist (like it did with Cuba, Iraq, Iran). The White House is already concocting more of the same. No adults in Europe will follow. Even poodles are able to sniff that the Obama administration does not even qualify to play Game of Thrones on PlayStation 3.

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007), Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge (Nimble Books, 2007), and Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009).

He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com.

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This pepe guy is, quite honestly, retarded.
Real, hardcore sanctions, if ever applied, would be devastating mostly for North Atlantic Treaty Organization poodles, not Moscow. Meanwhile, (energy) adults continue to do business as usual.
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Other than insulting Obama personally and a bunch of conspiracy theories, this crackpot doesn't even really have an argument or a thesis. I mean what is he actually arguing in this article? What is the point of all that :-@
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:lol:
Well ofcourse the stock market was going to fall!
Duh!!!!
Its how the worlds economy is structured, The reason you allow your currency to float is so that you get foreign investment.
Allot of foriegn investment is in the form of short term investment and speculation really not the type of investment you would assume.
The majority comes from western financial firms and they look for short term gain, this is what fucked the asians in 97, mexico before that and the Russians too in the 90's.
This unstable unregulated and frankly dangerous form of "investment" is deadly for all economies , and you still have relentless pressure for the US mostly through the
IMF to open up more and deregulate.

So the first sign of the US's displeasure was going to be massive sell off of stocks and a crash of the Russian stock market.

Putin and his allies in the government expected this to happen, infact they are quite happy its happening, infact Putin is cheering at the new "sanctions" targeting Oligarchs close to him.
This is because he is not yet a dictator and he had an arrangement with them, follow my orders , dont do anything against national interest and you can keep allof of your power and wealth.
A large number of the people under sanction right now were playing both sides, appealing to Russian national innterest while cooperating with the west.
This forces them to keep their money in Russia and helps consolidate the economy like the finance minister said yesterday.
It also puts them under a tighter leash and gives Putin more power.

The power to go full throttle into what he planning since 95.

You dont realize that the game is rigged in favour of the US and its poodles, the US mostly.
Russia has massive hard currency reserves mostly in dollars and they add more to their reserves every years a greater number than those hot funds from western financial instituions that were driving their stock market.
The problem is Russia cannot use its $500 billion plus reserves to fuel economic development they have to buy US treasury bonds and recycle it into the US economy. China cannot do the same with its $1.2 trillion dollars too and every cent they make benefits the US economy or rather the US financial sector more than them.

They along with other BRIC countries but primarily China and Russia have been planning a soft landing for the dollar,
but if there is a full attack on the Russian economy the Chinese will sooner or later agree to increase the pace from the projected 2019 to sooner causing upheavel in world markets.
The chinese also have different factions this will decide the events depending on which faction wins.
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James Dahl wrote:This pepe guy is, quite honestly, retarded.
Real, hardcore sanctions, if ever applied, would be devastating mostly for North Atlantic Treaty Organization poodles, not Moscow. Meanwhile, (energy) adults continue to do business as usual.
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Other than insulting Obama personally and a bunch of conspiracy theories, this crackpot doesn't even really have an argument or a thesis. I mean what is he actually arguing in this article? What is the point of all that :-@
neoliberal nonsense is more crackpot and dangerous ideas but it is backed up by Uncle Sams big stick,
the big stick does not work with a Nuclear power so you have to fight another way.

you are a smart guy i suggest you look around and observe how the world is run.
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Russian trade with USA= $27 Billion
Russian trade with EU = $457 Billion

I think these figures speak for themselves.
Only the most fanatical Rusophobes are backing "real" sanctions.
Countries like the UK, Poland, the Baltics.....surprise surprise. :lol:
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This whole thing is overrated.
All this is a result of the US bitching because it didnt get its way.
They believe that rules dont apply to them but to everyone.
They engineer a coup against a democratically elected government, provided support to protesters rebelling on the streets,m and when Putin does the same they cray?
This will blow over sooner or later and a diplomatic solution will be made, when obama or whoever comes after him accepts an agreement that does not hurt their ego.

The US wishes Putin to take the bait and invade Ukraine, but why would he do that?
its a mess and he wants the EU to pay for its repair and upkeep.
He just wants the russian speakers in the east and the vital military industrial nodes in the east to be insulated from western vultures, at least untill they complete all the orders for Russias millitary refurbishment through 2019.
After 2019 the IMF can have austerity placed on Ukraine and all those industries fucked and looted " privatization" .

Another reason why he wont invade now is to punish the Russian speakers in the east, according to polls only 1/3 want union with Russia now, with another 1/3 hedging their bets and another 1/3 wanting to remain with Ukraine.
He wants the new Ukrainian government to kill them, a few massacres here and there to convince the other 2/3 so that an overwhelming majority want to be in Russia. The IMF austerity will do the rest and Ukraine will literally fall into his lap.

so no luck there ..
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James Dahl wrote:This pepe guy is, quite honestly, retarded.
Real, hardcore sanctions, if ever applied, would be devastating mostly for North Atlantic Treaty Organization poodles, not Moscow. Meanwhile, (energy) adults continue to do business as usual.
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Other than insulting Obama personally and a bunch of conspiracy theories, this crackpot doesn't even really have an argument or a thesis. I mean what is he actually arguing in this article? What is the point of all that :-@

''It is entirely reasonable for Russia to argue that the stock market uncertainty is temporary, but the gaining of Crimea will be permanent''
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:clap: I just love Obama. He flies around the world all mighty and powerful. One press conference and the Russian stock markets goes downhill. :eat:
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Putin is basically the Russian version of George W Bush.
gurey25 wrote:neoliberal nonsense is more crackpot and dangerous ideas but it is backed up by Uncle Sams big stick,
the big stick does not work with a Nuclear power so you have to fight another way.

you are a smart guy i suggest you look around and observe how the world is run.
Indeed, but what Obama understands, and Pepe doesn't, is that it's money that runs the world.

Russia will quietly implode, like Iran did, and they will capitulate to stop the beatings to their economy.
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I suggest you listen to real economists not those puppeting government policy.
Your western media establshment believes that they are good at propaganda, but it only works on your citizens, not on the rest of the world.
This is as a result of the dumbing down of the population.
I dont know about canadian tv or news but US news channels are pretty childish and unprofessional, that you didnt notice is a sign of
the dumbing down of the population.

its really obscene.
James Dahl wrote:Indeed, but what Obama understands, and Pepe doesn't, is that it's money that runs the world.
Hell yes it does, you did not understand the article did you, money is what pepe was talking about the whole time
everyone is discussing money not millitary affairs.
and economics is not one dimensional it is multifaceted, Russia along with everyone have submitted to Dollar hegemony and all its
different affects for political reasons.
The affects of the Sanctions even the side affects like the stock market crash are all symptoms of the current structure,
Putin does not want to continue playing by the rules, he says i dont like the game and will not play it.
I will play my own rules and will make all my major trade partners play that game too.
James Dahl wrote:Russia will quietly implode, like Iran did, and they will capitulate to stop the beatings to their economy.
Iran implode? they are hurting but they are doing fine.
Russia implode? even at the worst with sanctions the level of Iran Russia will not suffer as it did twice in the 90's when their ecenomy crashed not once but twice and it was an experience worse thena the 1929 depression.
So you understand why Putin is cocky , first of all Iranian level sanctions will hurt Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, and a host of other EU states allot harder than Russia and fracture Nato.
and Russia has been through hell already, the projected affects of the worst sanctions are pisss easy.
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I Don't understand the historical Scandinavian hate towards Russia and Russian interests, Scandinavia financing the Baltic nations in the 1990s and are now patrolling their airspace
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Sweden used to be the big dog in the baltic till they lost the battle of poltava,
they lost Finland, and through later wars all the baltic states.
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gurey25 wrote:Sweden used to be the big dog in the baltic till they lost the battle of poltava,
they lost Finland, and through later wars all the baltic states.
Even under the second world war thousands of Scandinavian men joined the German forces battling the Russian cities and I can not describe the amount of anti--Russian news in Scandinavian news describing how the enemy from the east once again is rising .......
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Actually Russia is the traditional ally of Denmark and Norway :lol:

Denmark (which at the time also controlled Norway and Iceland) and Russia used to ally together against Sweden (who at the time also controlled Finland) until after the Napoleonic wars.
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Obama is a joke, no one takes him seriously anymore.
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