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Education in Finland

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If you’re a kid in Finland,
you don’t start school until
you’re 7 years old. There’s
almost no homework until
you’re a teenager. You don’t
wear a uniform, you can call
your teacher by his first
name, and you can attend
class barefoot if the mood
strikes you. It’s always
casual Friday, and you
spend fewer hours in the
classroom than students in
the rest of the developed
world.
Despite—or because of—
this leisurely approach, the
Finnish educational system
is one of the world’s finest.
Finland’s literacy rate is 100
percent. When the
Organization for Economic
Cooperation and
Development administers its
standardized reading and
math exams to students
from around the world,
Finnish pupils regularly
come out at or near the top.
What makes these results
more amazing is that just
four decades ago, Finland’s
academic record was a
mess. In the 1970s, though,
the government did
something extraordinary to
combat lax education: It
mandated that every teacher
earn a master’s degree, even
agreeing to foot the bills for
the extra schooling.
Teaching’s prestige
skyrocketed; becoming a
teacher in Finland is now as
tough as becoming a lawyer.
Only one in 10 primary
school applicants makes the
cut! Today, the rest of the
world is scrambling to
follow Finland’s example as
its hyper-educated
population continues to
boost the country’s
productivity. Maybe we
should all kick off our shoes
and learn a few things.
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Re: Education in Finland

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japans teachers are also prestigous, a teacher in japan is as highly paid as a doctor or a lawyer in the US.
and it commands more respect.
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:roll: Thug please DONT KICK YOUR SHOES. Don't expose your fat, flat feet with fat toes to the mass. Its unkind. :?


No school till 7 years old? U should mention during these important years, they are home schooled by their parents then. What better way than to get your first education from a loving home? I see nothing wrong with that. But also, Finland is a small country, with immense wealth-- so that has something to do with it. I bet they have the rich, unambitious spoilt child syndrome. Elegant, innately smart and worldly but no ambition or drive in life. Leave that for ambitious, trailer trash Americans. :stylin:
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The Finnish education system is supposedly the best in tbe world yet it's a country that produces absolutely fck all. Isn't it ironic that the archaic East Asian system which promotes rote-memorisation and crushes creativity and critical thinking yet produces the most inventive nations like Japan and Korea.
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Finland produces more than every single Arab country minus their oil exports.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:The Finnish education system is supposedly the best in tbe world yet it's a country that produces absolutely fck all. Isn't it ironic that the archaic East Asian system which promotes rote-memorisation and crushes creativity and critical thinking yet produces the most inventive nations like Japan and Korea.
i suggest you look into that.
just because you dont see any popular consumer brands apart from nokia it doesnt mean that they dont produce anything.
Just like Switzerland where most people believe all they do is cheese and chocolate and banking, but it is the most industrialized country in the world after japan and taiwan with manufacturing still making up more than a qaurter of the labour force and they manufacture very hugh quality industrial machinery .
Finland is the same, they make some of the most advanced industrial machinery and they are still one of the top shipbuilders,
the electronics industry still exists unlike the rest of europe where it only serves the millitary.
look up KONE elevators, Wartsila one of the biggest engine producers outside of japan,Neste oil and the 1st, second and third largest paper and pulp manufacturing companies in the world.
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Basra- wrote::roll: Thug please DONT KICK YOUR SHOES. Don't expose your fat, flat feet with fat toes to the mass. Its unkind. :?


No school till 7 years old? U should mention during these important years, they are home schooled by their parents then. What better way than to get your first education from a loving home? I see nothing wrong with that. But also, Finland is a small country, with immense wealth-- so that has something to do with it. I bet they have the rich, unambitious spoilt child syndrome. Elegant, innately smart and worldly but no ambition or drive in life. Leave that for ambitious, trailer trash Americans. :stylin:
you have no idea of life outside the US dont you?
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gurey25 wrote:
LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:The Finnish education system is supposedly the best in tbe world yet it's a country that produces absolutely fck all. Isn't it ironic that the archaic East Asian system which promotes rote-memorisation and crushes creativity and critical thinking yet produces the most inventive nations like Japan and Korea.
i suggest you look into that.
just because you dont see any popular consumer brands apart from nokia it doesnt mean that they dont produce anything.
Just like Switzerland where most people believe all they do is cheese and chocolate and banking, but it is the most industrialized country in the world after japan and taiwan with manufacturing still making up more than a qaurter of the labour force and they manufacture very hugh quality industrial machinery .
Finland is the same, they make some of the most advanced industrial machinery and they are still one of the top shipbuilders,
the electronics industry still exists unlike the rest of europe where it only serves the millitary.
look up KONE elevators, Wartsila one of the biggest engine producers outside of japan,Neste oil and the 1st, second and third largest paper and pulp manufacturing companies in the world.
Fair enough, I overlooked specific industries and products but it's hardly turing heads in it's overall performance. Its should be a virtual breeding ground for cultural and technological innovation.
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Its should be a virtual breeding ground for cultural and technological innovation.
they are if you are in the software industry and telecom.
even millitary, the best lightwieght IFV in my opinion is made by patria.
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So how do we copy them?
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Re: Education in Finland

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PrinceDaadi wrote:So how do we copy them?
Lol. You can start by having a stable country and effective government first.
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Re: Education in Finland

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Both the rote system as mentioned by Liquid,and the late 7yr starting system mentioned in the article.Were employed in classical Islamic teaching.As well as giving prestige to the Ma3alim.This engenders free thinking .The western system is for indoctrination not education.It's designed to mass produce sheep as is evident with fat Basra
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Norway and denmark have better education system
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Thuganomics wrote:Both the rote system as mentioned by Liquid,and the late 7yr starting system mentioned in the article.Were employed in classical Islamic teaching.As well as giving prestige to the Ma3alim.This engenders free thinking .The western system is for indoctrination not education.It's designed to mass produce sheep as is evident with fat Basra
How were the two systems reconciled? Was it one system for one subject and another for a different subject?
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Re: Education in Finland

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It was all one system.If you really want the ins and outs.You should listen to a lecture called "Lambs to the slaughter" by Hamza Yusuf.He gives you an in depth analysis to both the western model as employed by the likes of the US,UK and France and the classical Islamic model
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