Somali politicians and incentives
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Somali politicians and incentives
It is generally accepted that when faced with the choice people are inclined to do what is in their own best interest. Take Somali MPs for example, they get a regular income now from being MPs however in the event of a one man one vote system they run the risk of losing their current post and therefore losing this regular income. Why then should they make the process of reaching this target any smoother?
Again, when a president has all his children abroad, when they study abroad, live abroad, he buys houses abroad and there is little tying him to the country which he runs, where is the incentive to go beyond syphoning money to offshore accounts?
This isn't just about Somalia but African politics in general. However since we are Somalis this is what's relevant to us.
There is also the question of AMISOM and the UN who have very little incentive to see Somalia become independent of them as all it will do for them is dry up their revenue streams.
How then can Somalia ensure that its politicians are incentivised to work in the best interest of the country?
I think the first step lies in revoking dual citizenship of anyone who holds office starting with the president, ministers, federal presidents, MPs all the way to the police officers.Then there is the issue of MPs who should spend a minimum of 6 months (possibly more) in the region they have been elected from. If they build relationships with these communities there will be less fear of them not getting re-elected. Furthermore they should get a better idea of what their constituents need and fight for them in parliament. This will lead to people demanding more from their representatives and parliament should become a place of work where laws get passed and things get done.
Again, when a president has all his children abroad, when they study abroad, live abroad, he buys houses abroad and there is little tying him to the country which he runs, where is the incentive to go beyond syphoning money to offshore accounts?
This isn't just about Somalia but African politics in general. However since we are Somalis this is what's relevant to us.
There is also the question of AMISOM and the UN who have very little incentive to see Somalia become independent of them as all it will do for them is dry up their revenue streams.
How then can Somalia ensure that its politicians are incentivised to work in the best interest of the country?
I think the first step lies in revoking dual citizenship of anyone who holds office starting with the president, ministers, federal presidents, MPs all the way to the police officers.Then there is the issue of MPs who should spend a minimum of 6 months (possibly more) in the region they have been elected from. If they build relationships with these communities there will be less fear of them not getting re-elected. Furthermore they should get a better idea of what their constituents need and fight for them in parliament. This will lead to people demanding more from their representatives and parliament should become a place of work where laws get passed and things get done.
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I approve this scheme for cleaning up politics. Revoking dual nationality sounds good. 

- BlackVelvet
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We need to start talking about these matters as a community
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In addition, the Somali republic must ban all Saudi and Arab funding of mosques and Islamic media. These vermin have poisoned our native Islam with ragheadism.
We must clear out both secular and religious corruption.
We must clear out both secular and religious corruption.
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It's ridiculous that a politician in one country holds citizenship to another. They need to do away with that. If you want to govern a place, you should give up your citizenship of all other countries.
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Turkey's would never vote for Christmas.
We should cut to the chase.....10 year prison sentences for high level Govt corruption.
A corrupt politician won't cease to be corrupt because his family live in Somalia.
We should cut to the chase.....10 year prison sentences for high level Govt corruption.
A corrupt politician won't cease to be corrupt because his family live in Somalia.
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Those MPs who are in Nairobi more than Mogadishu should lose their seats. You just be in Somalia 300 days of the year. You must be in Mogadishu for all parliamentary sessions unless you have an emergency
We must also target Somali MPs and politicians who are frauds. Former TFG minister and current MP Xoosh lost his license to practice law after writing references for failed welfare recepients and getting a cut from their welfare when the welfare office overturned the decision. The law society found out and they revoked his license
Alot of MPs and politicians in Somalia are criminals with shady pasts in the West. The govt must take this seriously.
I am,
Abdi "We also need an accountability and anti corruption office" Johnson
We must also target Somali MPs and politicians who are frauds. Former TFG minister and current MP Xoosh lost his license to practice law after writing references for failed welfare recepients and getting a cut from their welfare when the welfare office overturned the decision. The law society found out and they revoked his license
Alot of MPs and politicians in Somalia are criminals with shady pasts in the West. The govt must take this seriously.
I am,
Abdi "We also need an accountability and anti corruption office" Johnson
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Yes it shouldn't be tolerated this holiday in hotel behaviour
Does anyone have that Universal guy's details? Let's tell him we want to talk about these issues. Not just hash and re-hash Somalia's problems but start discussing and implementing solutions
Does anyone have that Universal guy's details? Let's tell him we want to talk about these issues. Not just hash and re-hash Somalia's problems but start discussing and implementing solutions
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This seems to be a good idea.
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Somalia is a experiment, today. To rid Somalia of its ills, we need another revolution but not one like in 1969, something more drastic.
Sharia law
Sharia law

- BlackVelvet
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PrinceDaadi wrote:This seems to be a good idea.

Historically, revolutions lead to long term unrest. Why not implement change that we can all benefit from? We've got the necessary conditions to create a very inclusive system that can lead to long term stability.STARKAST wrote:Somalia is a experiment, today. To rid Somalia of its ills, we need another revolution but not one like in 1969, something more drastic.
Sharia law
If we as a community start talking about what we want there are more than enough avenues to get the point across to the government, we can push the agenda. People keep using the media for public fadhi kudirir when the discourse could be so much more productive.
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Lets begin by implementing it in your house. 

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What makes you say that?
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Because some folk are quick to suggest solutions for others.....yet not so keen to implement them closer to home.
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This all fine an dandy but has no impact on reality. In reality, Ethiopia and Kenya rule the country and the Somali "parliamentarians" are nothing but looters and thugs taking advantage of the chaos. The country used to be run by sophisticated and patriotic men who graduated from fine colleges. Now we have taxi-drivers and illiterates. No, in a country as broken and utterly destitute as Somalia, change is brought about by bullets and mortar shells, not universal tv.
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