Female Circumcision Vs Abortion

The_Don_of_djibouti · Post by **The_Don_of_djibouti** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:10 am

Dear Somalis

Here is the original article by Nuur on somaliaonline forum==>
http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ub ... 2;t=001628

The underlining problem is in the UK, the somalis community have the highest abortion among all minorities.
We as individual will not be saviors, but how we are going to save our own sisters and member of our families not to fall.
Brother Nuur have highlighted under the following:

Problems:
1. Parents are not raising the kids well
2. Public School system a negative influence
3. Streets and neighborhood are very bad influence
4. Poverty, kids would do anything to buy what they like.

The options:

Sex Education: Not effective, been taught, but no results
Abstinence: Impossible in light of temptations
Lock them up: Not allowed.
Beat them: Not allowed
So, you stumble on our valued idea of Gudniin , you weigh against the impact above.

This thread are not for women and the none Somalis.

I opt out the women, because Allah did not gave them responsibilities on high matters, (as no prophets were a woman).

The question is open to all of us Somalis Man

Kind regards
Me or the_don_od_djibouti

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:19 am

Don
You're a real enlightened guy aren't you?

Wake up moron. It's 2005 AD, not 680 AD.

The_Don_of_djibouti · Post by **The_Don_of_djibouti** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:25 am

dear dofaar

What can I say to you??????
I have said this thread is not open to none somalis.
Don't you have an honor? don't you have a shame.
Don't you have a self respect!
you are a middle aged man going 50!!!

for your honnor sake, stay away of this thread

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:29 am

Fock you - little sand pimp. You can sock my d!ck. I'll post wherever I like here.

The_Don_of_djibouti · Post by **The_Don_of_djibouti** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:32 am

Dear dofaar

You are middle age man going 50 years old.
Look at yourself!!!!
Swearing like a child.

If you have 1 iyoota of self respect left, stay away of this thread.
Is that hard for a 50 years old.

do not reply this thread for your honnor

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:36 am

What we have here, is a lack of communication.

Now which part of "I'll post wherever I like here" did you not understand?

The_Don_of_djibouti · Post by **The_Don_of_djibouti** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:38 am

Dear dofaar

Which part of stay away a 50 years old don't understand?
which part if you have a self respect what we call (dheeq) don't you understand?

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:42 am

Don
See, unfortunately for you, this is what we call a PUBLIC DISCUSSION BOARD. That means, that it's open to the PUBLIC. Which means anyone can post here. Now, as a facist, I realize that the idea of free speech is anathema to you, but if you want to hang out on public discussion boards, it's a concept you're going to have to get used to.

The_Don_of_djibouti · Post by **The_Don_of_djibouti** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:46 am

Dear Dofaar

War bal somaliyeh dawaadah doofarkan.
Don't you have one ayoota of self respect.
A 50 years old behaving like a child which have been denied sweets?

From all of this threads in the forum, your little small head did not tell you to stay away for self respect?

Newboy · Post by **Newboy** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:53 am

weed thing

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:57 am

Don
This isn't a self-respect thing. This is an intimidation thing. You are just trying to bully me - and it ain't going to work.

Now, maybe if you had said "Please, I'd appreciate it if only Somali men would respond" then MAYBE I would have entertained that. But get it straight buster, you don't tell me what to do. Not now, not ever. Focking rag-heads, think they can bully everyone around them.

The_Don_of_djibouti · Post by **The_Don_of_djibouti** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:01 am

Dear dofaar

See it used to be hard to test your bravado, i have been there and i have been this.
kill this much of somalis when i was a soldier.

but they only thing i could prove or test was if you had any self respect or honnor. which u have failed miserably.

for your own self respect do not anwer this thread how hard is that????

TZ Somali · Post by **TZ Somali** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:01 am

Remember the despicable action of Female genetical mutalation its a practise that stem from varying culture and customs of moslems and non moslem alike. But often those moslems who carried out such inhumane practise utilised Islam as pretext on which to base their justification, is fair to note FGM is a bypass product of cultural values and customs norms but certainly not of Islam.

+chilli · Post by **+chilli** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:11 am

((I opt out the women, because Allah did not gave them responsibilities on high matters, (as no prophets were a woman). ))*

What you speaking none-sense here mate, n take Allah out of you stupid patriarchy view.

N abortion is haram n the other thing is cultural

*HannaH* · Post by ***HannaH*** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:32 am

Earl, shut the the Fukc Up trialor trash.

Anyway, Don.....

Circumcision does not control or regulate sexual appetite. Taking such huge a part of someone causes huge emotional/mental/sexual confusion and should not even be considered as an option.That is why many of the these females act out. For a woman to reach a sexual awareness or comfort with her body and sexuality, is something that she must grow into. It can't just be done, it comes with time and maturity, circumcision stunts that growth. Not only does it stunt coming to a sexual maturity but it makes her feel inadequate in some way, shape or form..that is why she acts out. She is looking for some sort of satisfaction, with her self.

As the article said, abstinence is next to impossible in this day and age. It's not that the sex education is un-effctive it's that it is useless, what good will it do if they leave what is learned at school and cannot come home and discuss it with their parent(s)?

Parents are part of the blame, the smaller part. What they need to understand is that they are not in Somalia anymore. Teenagers here face difficult things and the parents need to be able to adpat and even tho they might not agree to the discussion, they must know that it is essential. That is problems with Somali parents, they are too quick to dismiss and deem their teen's issues as irrelevant or not important. It's entirely too easy for them to say "War or Naa, naga tag."

Now for the kids of today. I feel sorry for them because they are misunderstood and I believe they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Who I feel more sorry for are the Somali parents of today. You have to make your own decisions based on what is wrong or right to you. You have to be able to be an individual and find and know yourself in the midst of peer presures and confusion. The most important thing, what kids of today don't know is, is that in their quest for self awarness they need to still respect and obey their parents. They need to realize that the average Somali parent has gone through a hell of a whole lot, and deserves nothing but the best treatment. For every thought that leaves and enters your mind, the one that needs to stay is trying to better their life by bettering your own. Let's face it, our parents aren't that demanding.....all they ask is that we not loose our culture/language while we gain a foregin one!