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Somali Investors/Business Owners leave Kenya for Somalia

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MOGADISHU, Somalia — After eight years living in Kenya, Ifrah Osman decided to go home to Somalia, the country she fled in 2006 as the long-running war worsened. In the last few years security has improved in Mogadishu, and some have found hope and opportunity here — but that’s not why Osman went home. She left Kenya because it had become unlivable for her.

For Osman the final straw came at 1 a.m. on a weekday night in late April when Kenyan police raided her apartment block in Eastleigh, a predominately Somali part of the capital.

“They kicked at my door in the middle of the night. I feared they might try to rape me. One of them broke a window but I wouldn’t let them in,” said the 28-year-old businesswoman and mother of two.

She listened as the officers went door to door seizing identity documents from her neighbors then demanding money for their return, or dragging away household items for which the owners could not produce receipts. Extortion marked every step.

“They used to harass us in the past but you pay $5 to $10 and they would go away,” said Osman.

In the name of fighting foreign Islamist terrorism, Kenya’s government launched a security crackdown in early April. Osman’s story of the effects of this “Operation Usalama [Security] Watch” is one of the more moderate ones. Human rights groups have criticized the rounding up of thousands of ethnic Somalis. Terrorist attacks have become a regular feature of Kenyan life since the army was sent into neighboring Somalia to fight Islamic insurgents such as Al Qaeda-affiliated group Al Shabaab in October 2011. The mostly low-tech attacks in Kenya — bullets fired into churches, grenades flung at bus stops — are rarely claimed either by Al Shabaab or any other group, but Islamic extremists are routinely suspected.

Allegations of mistreatment, though the government denies them, are numerous. Around 200 Somalis have been deported and hundreds returned to refugee camps in northern Kenya. Hundreds more languish in a football stadium that has been converted into a detention and screening center. Many others are choosing to leave a country they feel no longer wants them.

The harassment and the bribes increased under the new operation, Osman said. “Now it is $20 or $30 or more,” she said. The extortion has eaten into the money she saved to pay school fees and rent. “They are police but I call them thieves.”

So last Wednesday she took her 5-year-old daughter Ismahan and 6-month-old son Mohamed and joined the crowds of Somalis jostling for space on the regular flights back to Mogadishu. A friend in Eastleigh will sell all the stock in Osman’s cosmetics boutique and close up her apartment.

“I’m very angry about what the Kenyan government is doing to Somalis. They are targeting Somalis and also Muslims,” she said. “I won’t go back to Kenya.”

Sipping a glass of freshly pressed mango and papaya juice as shisha smoke drifted across a booth in a Mogadishu restaurant, Osman said she will first find a school for her daughter and then open a new shop.

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The security crackdown is a popular move among many Kenyans, as an op-ed published in the Daily Nation newspaper shortly before the start of the operation made clear.

“It would appear that every little, two-bit Somali has a big dream — to blow us up, knock down our buildings and slaughter our children,” wrote Mutuma Mathiu, the paper’s managing editor. “We are at war. Let’s start shooting.”
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Somalis should leave for Muslim/Somali majority keyan cities or for Somalia.
Being cut up by machete is no way to die.
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abdikarim86 wrote:Somalis should leave for Muslim/Somali majority keyan cities or for Somalia.
Being cut up by machete is no way to die.
I am sure Hargeysa, Boosaaso, Djibouri, Boorama, Burco, Garowe, Berbera, even Mogadishu etc. would gladly welcome them.
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Somalis who live in Nairobi are brainless. Maybe you deserve what happens to you if you live in the middle of Kikuyu country. Mogadishu, Hargeisa, Bosaso, Garissa etc are all safe. Why not go home? Or atleast come to the West. Why are you people still in Nairobi?

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Octavius wrote:
The security crackdown is a popular move among many Kenyans, as an op-ed published in the Daily Nation newspaper shortly before the start of the operation made clear.

“It would appear that every little, two-bit Somali has a big dream — to blow us up, knock down our buildings and slaughter our children,” wrote Mutuma Mathiu, the paper’s managing editor. “We are at war. Let’s start shooting.”
No doubt he's already distributed machetes to his immediate and extended family :holdup:
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Moses Kuria called for Kenyans to "start killing Somalis". He's an aide of the President, Uhuru Kenyatta. His Facebook friends responded: "please give us AK47's". :lol:

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Lol, these Somali "businesses" are utterly useless for the Kenyan economy, their importance are ridiculously exaggerated by Somalis. 97% of them are either shabby stores selling imported Chinese goods, a restaurant or the odd hotel and hawala. Almost all Somali businesses are service oriented. They have the benefit of Kenyan roads and infrastructure, security, decent electricity and a large market population with sizeable disposable income. You will find none of these things in Somalia.
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cashmere wrote:Lol, these Somali "businesses" are utterly useless for the Kenyan economy, their importance are ridiculously exaggerated by Somalis. 97% of them are either shabby stores selling imported Chinese goods, a restaurant or the odd hotel and hawala. Almost all Somali businesses are service oriented. They have the benefit of Kenyan roads and infrastructure, security, decent electricity and a large market population with sizeable disposable income. You will find none of these things in Somalia.
Can you say the same about tourism from Western countries that's now dissappearing and the hundreds of millions of dollars that's hemorrhaging from the economy as a result. :ooh:
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Octavius wrote: Can you say the same about tourism from Western countries that's now dissipating into nonexistance? :ooh:
How on earth are the two related? I was merely talking the about the significance of Somali business owners to the Kenyan economy.
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I will explain to you how they are related, but answer the question.
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cashmere wrote:Lol, these Somali "businesses" are utterly useless for the Kenyan economy, their importance are ridiculously exaggerated by Somalis. 97% of them are either shabby stores selling imported Chinese goods, a restaurant or the odd hotel and hawala. Almost all Somali businesses are service oriented. They have the benefit of Kenyan roads and infrastructure, security, decent electricity and a large market population with sizeable disposable income. You will find none of these things in Somalia.
The hub of Somali enterprise is Eastleigh and if you know anything about Kenya you'd be outright lying for suggesting that Eastleigh has benefited from "infrastructure" when even the sewage systems are non-existent.

Yes there are quite a number of hotels, restaurants and hawalas moreover how many malls have been built from the ground up? How many shops are there? How many millions worth of commodities are bought and sold in any given month? Most of the customers are not even Kenyan, business people come from Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi etc. to buy in bulk.

Those are the facts.

Now as for the topic and business people moving to Somalia, it's great news for Somalia but some individuals stand to lose a lot of money. You can't move a hotel or a mall...I hope calm is restored and Somalis feel and are safe.
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The hub of Somali enterprise is Eastleigh and if you know anything about Kenya you'd be outright lying for suggesting that Eastleigh has benefited from "infrastructure" when even the sewage systems are non-existent.
Do those Somali businesses not use public roads to transit their goods to that dirty swamp? Do they not rely on Kenyan ports to import their goods? Do they not rely on Kenyan communication networks for internet/tellecom? Yes indeed Somali businesses have greatly benefited from Kenyan infrastructure.
Yes there are quite a number of hotels, restaurants and hawalas moreover how many malls have been built from the ground up? How many shops are there?
What good is the number of shop there is if they all sell the same damn Chinese goods?
How many millions worth of commodities are bought and sold in any given month? Most of the customers are not even Kenyan, business people come from Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi etc. to buy in bulk.
I'm not sure what you are arguing. I'm sure there are many Somali businesses out there doing well selling wholesale chinese goods, but lets not pretend they're multinationals. Their impact on the overall economy is negligible.
Octavius wrote:I will explain to you how they are related, but answer the question.
What is your question? Wasn't clear to me.
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cashmere wrote:Do those Somali businesses not use public roads to transit their goods to that dirty swamp? Do they not rely on Kenyan ports to import their goods? Do they not rely on Kenyan communication networks for internet/tellecom? Yes indeed Somali businesses have greatly benefited from Kenyan infrastructure.
Does the Kenyan port give them the service for free? Is Safaricom owned by the Kenyan government? When electricity, sewage systems and the roads in a place of business are below par then you can't boast about providing good infrastructure.
cashmere wrote:What good is the number of shop there is if they all sell the same damn Chinese goods?
cashmere wrote:wholesale chinese goods
Do you have something against Chinese goods?

Also yes they may not be multinationals but risking the security of investors and business people because of their ethnicity is risking the stability and attractiveness of Kenya as an investment location for actual multinationals. It takes a long time to build trust and confidence and only a few short moves to destroy it.

Kenya is an attractive country and the current problems must be addressed but turning inwards and attacking yourselves is a bad move. The problem started when KDF went into Somalia, if you want to campaign for something, get the troops out of Somalia. Focus on border control.
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Kenya is an attractive country and the current problems must be addressed but turning inwards and attacking yourselves is a bad move. The problem started when KDF went into Somalia, if you want to campaign for something, get the troops out of Somalia. Focus on border control.
KDF are in Somalia for a reason. Church grenade attacks and tourist kidnappings were happening well before the incursion.
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