Abortion very high in somali community.
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Abortion very high in somali community.
The underlining problem is in the UK, the somalis community have the highest abortion among all minorities.
We as individual will not be saviors, but how we are going to save our own sisters and member of our families not to fall.
Brother Nuur have highlighted under the following:
Problems:
1. Parents are not raising the kids well
2. Public School system a negative influence
3. Streets and neighborhood are very bad influence
4. Poverty, kids would do anything to buy what they like.
The options:
Sex Education: Not effective, been taught, but no results
Abstinence: Impossible in light of temptations
Lock them up: Not allowed.
Beat them: Not allowed
So, you stumble on our valued idea of Gudniin , you weigh against the impact above.
This thread are not for women and the none Somalis.
I opt out the women, because Allah did not gave them responsibilities on high matters, (as no prophets were a woman).
We as individual will not be saviors, but how we are going to save our own sisters and member of our families not to fall.
Brother Nuur have highlighted under the following:
Problems:
1. Parents are not raising the kids well
2. Public School system a negative influence
3. Streets and neighborhood are very bad influence
4. Poverty, kids would do anything to buy what they like.
The options:
Sex Education: Not effective, been taught, but no results
Abstinence: Impossible in light of temptations
Lock them up: Not allowed.
Beat them: Not allowed
So, you stumble on our valued idea of Gudniin , you weigh against the impact above.
This thread are not for women and the none Somalis.
I opt out the women, because Allah did not gave them responsibilities on high matters, (as no prophets were a woman).
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[quote="First Lady"]What about if it was Rape
dont judge over things u dont know bout
but still........abortion is haram
[/quote]
No one is judging sis, he just presented what brother Nuur said.
North Bro About abortion and rape, You still killing a innocent baby* But I dont get this sourse I have seen other information which contrudic this info, Do you know if its allowed or not?
*If even the conception is the result of extra-marital union or forced rape, abortion is not allowed, because the (innocent) baby to be, has the right to life, that can not be denied. The biological parents - both or either one - or else the society/state is responsible to take care of such "un-wanted" or illegal births
*The only condition under which abortion is allowed is when there is an actual threat to the life of the mother confirmed by an official medical report that if the pregnancy advances any further, the mother may die.
http://www.jamaat.org/qa/abort.html

dont judge over things u dont know bout
but still........abortion is haram

No one is judging sis, he just presented what brother Nuur said.
North Bro About abortion and rape, You still killing a innocent baby* But I dont get this sourse I have seen other information which contrudic this info, Do you know if its allowed or not?
*If even the conception is the result of extra-marital union or forced rape, abortion is not allowed, because the (innocent) baby to be, has the right to life, that can not be denied. The biological parents - both or either one - or else the society/state is responsible to take care of such "un-wanted" or illegal births
*The only condition under which abortion is allowed is when there is an actual threat to the life of the mother confirmed by an official medical report that if the pregnancy advances any further, the mother may die.
http://www.jamaat.org/qa/abort.html
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The people who said abortion isn't haram need to read the qur'an carefully instead of misleading people. Acuudu bilaah.
Anyhow at the end of the day it's the parents' fault. If they don't nurture and don't know what is going on in their children's lives then that's what happens. Supervision is very important. Even though some parents do try hard but still fail because shaydaan gets the best of those kids. Plus I've seen for myself that Somali communities in the UK are pretty messed up
. The dad's are at a maqaayad from sunset until sundown and the mothers just move from one place to the other for a chat with their girlfriends. The kids are left at home by themselves so they just have all the freedom in the world. Shame.
May Allah (swt) guide them to the right path insha allah.
Anyhow at the end of the day it's the parents' fault. If they don't nurture and don't know what is going on in their children's lives then that's what happens. Supervision is very important. Even though some parents do try hard but still fail because shaydaan gets the best of those kids. Plus I've seen for myself that Somali communities in the UK are pretty messed up

May Allah (swt) guide them to the right path insha allah.
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