the new geopolitical vision of the US towards somalia

[sahal80]

This former somali diplomat to the US explains well this.

He calls to get rid of IGAD soon, according to my political understanding the gulf arabs will eventually replace IGAD but at the moment the govt is building these diplomatic relations

All we can say now is that somalia geopolitically is back thanks to djs diplomatic smartness and due to its strategic location and resources.

You gotta deal with its leadership!.


"Geopolitics and Geo-economy
The gist of the message to the Somali leadership was this: Yes, terrorism is a threat. Yes, we still plan to drone down bad guys. But, make no mistake: We do not make foreign policy based on manageable threats that emanate from self-destructive religious thugs and simpletons, and we certainly did not build a massive floating military base for whale-watching. If it was only about terrorism, we would’ve never left Iraq and Afghanistan, and we would’ve shielded the president who used to put on military gear and visit Somali soldiers in the front lines.

No offense, but with China’s rapidly expanding influence in the African continent and Russia’s sudden strategic moves to lure us, along with our European friends, into an economic checkmate, we thought our latest policy move could be the game changer that both our countries direly need.

Reconciliation For Closure
Ambassador Sherman was correct in underscoring that “The truly defining test (for Somalia) would be an internal one.” Somalis, she said, “have to decide whether they want to exist as desperate clans isolated from the world and in conflict with one another or as a united country with all the attributes, benefits and responsibilities that such unity brings.”

“Somalis should know if they choose to continue to come together, they will have enthusiastic and substantial international support.

FGS should take this as a last call to save the Somali nation. The current leadership should let go their political bickering and immediately pave the way for a genuine reconciliation by appointing a non-controversial, credible traditional or religious patriot who could assemble and lead a diverse reconciliation commission.

While “security, governance and development” are indeed important objectives, they are practically impossible to achieve without genuine reconciliation, and without the political will to sideline our good neighbors. And the latter can only be done by suspending Somalia’s membership of IGAD."
Abukar arman.

[Hawdian]

Sahal,

The US nor the rest of the IC show any interest in Somalia other than controlling the ninja youth (al Shabab).

I have also seen few of your posts and I must say your political insight even in Somalia is very limited. Often you get too excited over small things.

Somalia is not important but that doesn't mean few US officials won't make a rare comment.

China is not interested either. The Chinese look for people or states that resemble their own including population (consumer power). They do not see that in Somalia but her next door in Ethiopia.

The only thing Somalis have is coast line and that's very cheap mate when the region is dotted with hundreds. Easy bargain.

[sahal80]

Sahal,

The US nor the rest of the IC show any interest in Somalia other than controlling the ninja youth (al Shabab).

I have also seen few of your posts and I must say your political insight even in Somalia is very limited. Often you get too excited over small things.

Somalia is not important but that doesn't mean few US officials won't make a rare comment.

China is not interested either. The Chinese look for people or states that resemble their own including population (consumer power). They do not see that in Somalia but her next door in Ethiopia.

The only thing Somalis have is coast line and that's very cheap mate when the region is dotted with hundreds. Easy bargain.

lol this must be a pure reaction!

Why the west is leaving kenya(the last being the uk cosulate in kenya getting closed!) And coming to somalia?

Its because of china!

Unlike of kenya, we gave our contracts only to the west!

The UN is backing the govt in this deal because of the westren interests!(Countries who dominate the security council)

Anyways thank you but you have been emotional and far from the reality!

We are a country like any other country in this world that's why!.
http://profarmsmusic.wordpress.com/2014 ... terrorism/

[Hawdian]

Sahal,

That's all your own imagination. But just for the sake of entertainment, share the evidence showing how "West is leaving" Kenya for the grave.

You're trying to tell us that West is leaving....



For ....



hmmm...and where is the Chinese?

If you said Turkey then okay but China? The Chinese are all in Ethiopia not dead Somalia.



The Turks are only using Somalia as a stepping stone. As soon as they find something better and an entry point to Africa, they will relocate.

If anyone is emotional and short sighted about the region, it's clear to everyone.

[sahal80]

Lol it shows that your full of emotions and just can debate like a rational person!

I tell you what, wait and see. SomaOIL&GAS operating in the south while the UN is banning the rest until the same deal was done with govt!.

I'm out!.

[Hawdian]

Don't runaway when your premature childish claims were destroyed.

Soma Oil & Gas Exploration Ltd. is small unofficial firm owned by a former British Councillor (Conservative - Michael Howard). That doesn't say much and as far as investing goes, he doesn't even have working capital bigger than $10m. It is still trying to raise $20m from "investors".

Where the evidence for your bombastic claims that West is leaving Kenya?

My advice for you is know the region instead of recreating to little news such as SomGas or one unknown US making an isolated little comment on a blog.

[original dervish]

Sahal sxb......it has taken almost two years for dj to realise they are nothing without Somali's behind them.
I have been making the case for a govt of national unity since the day Hassan Sheikh bought his way into villa Somalia.

[abdikarim86]

Lol it shows that your full of emotions and just can debate like a rational person!

I tell you what, wait and see. SomaOIL&GAS operating in the south while the UN is banning the rest until the same deal was done with govt!.

I'm out!.

Dadkani waa dad lala yaabo walee

Nacasadani waxay aaminsantahay that the
UN and "Beesha Caalamka" will hand all of
the Somali terratories to the SFG on a plate

[GIJaamac]

sahal

Just ignore this jealous dirty waqooyi Hawdian who lost confidence in his own country. It hurts him to see south central Somalia progressing, because he knows his country SL could not succeed with their +20 years peace and will not probably make progress in the future if commercial oil deposits are not found there. These people couldn't attract singe foreign investor in over 20 years. What a hopeless, jealous people. Allaa idiin maqan.

Hawdian

Cuqdad u dhimo nacaladyahay

Biggest construction company in the world planning to invest in south central Somalia

Mogadishu-Somalia, May 24, 2014- Gudoomiyaha G/Banadir ahna Duqa Muqdisho Gen. Xasan Maxamed Xuseen (Mungaab) ayaa la kulmay maanta wafdi ay hugaaminayeen Mr. Zhaobing oo ah Madaxa shirkada dhismaha ee China railyway No 5 Group ee ay leedahay Dawlada Shiinaha iyo madaxa suuq geynta Mr. WU. Wafdiga ka socday Dawladda shiinaha ayaa sheegay inay tahay waqtigii ku haboonayd dib u dhiska Soomaliya.

Wafdiga shiinaha ayaa hoosta ka xariiqay inay Soomaaliya u yimaadeen inay dib u dhis ku sameeyaan dhismayasha Dawlada Somaaliya gaar ahaan xarumaha halbowlha u ah shaqada Dawlada sida Airport,dekada, wadooyinka Magaalada.’ waxaan qeyb ka noqoneynaa dhismaha magalada muqdisho, sidoo kale waxaan hormarineynaa xiriirka ganacsi ee labada dal Waxan muqdisho ka furidonaa shirkad ganacsi,waxana kor u qaadi doonaa dhoofinta iyo soo dejinta ganacsiga ayuu yiri’’ Mr. Wu Madxa Suuq geynta ee Shirkadda.

http://warsheekh.com/articles/23313/Gud ... sho-Sawiro

[theyuusuf143]

@GIjaamac

ma waxad noogu faanaysaa chinese baa wax ii dhisaya, iyo hebelo kalaa wax iisoo wada. anigu waxan kuugu faani karaa in qabiilada somaliland ugu yar yar sida jufida arab ee beesha isaaq, ay dhisayaan wado 60 km ah, wadan waxa dhista dadka leh waxa dib idiin dhigay maaha bulshada caalamka oo idin hagratay laakiin idinkaan dad ahayn. 23 sano kadib madaxweynaha somalia ugandhaa suuliga u kaxaysa.

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[sahal80]

Lol it shows that your full of emotions and just can debate like a rational person!

I tell you what, wait and see. SomaOIL&GAS operating in the south while the UN is banning the rest until the same deal was done with govt!.

I'm out!.

Dadkani waa dad lala yaabo walee

Nacasadani waxay aaminsantahay that the
UN and "Beesha Caalamka" will hand all of
the Somali terratories to the SFG on a plate

NO!. Firstly I could careless of waqooyi, secondly I was answering back to some one who has landed in my thread!.


Every body knows that the somali federal govts is recognized, is there any place else who's recognized besides the FGS? No unless some one who's crazy sees another world!

This recognized govt of somalia has a constitution says that according to the article 44 "the allocation of the natural resources of the federal republic of somalia shall be negotiated by and agreed upon by the the FGS in accordance with the federal member states"! Thus, the somali govt considers all these regional contracts as null and void!! Worse its making a new petroleum law that will be adopted by the UN once out!!

Means that the somali govt has the full power to invest in its south and stop this happening in out of its control!!

The only solution is these regions coming to mogadishu!!.

Or else forget about it!!

Hope you get it!!.

[abdikarim86]

The Hutu got jokes

[sahal80]

Sahal sxb......it has taken almost two years for dj to realise they are nothing without Somali's behind them.
I have been making the case for a govt of national unity since the day Hassan Sheikh bought his way into villa Somalia.

Yeah I know your theory, strong somalia depends on real a reconciliation like this author believes too. I think the situation is getting better now seen all these new politicians who are more reconciliatory than the old ones. Hada dag deg ayey wax ko socdaan thanks to them.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Delusional people.

[sahal80]

This thread is closed.

Hope in my next thread I have no such confrontation with hawdian. I don't interest more than the somali govt if I need such confrontation I would have mentioned other stuff but no I'm not.